Minutes of the April 6, 2008 College of Heralds Meeting

Meeting commenced at 11:00 AM.

In attendance were: Lachlan Crescent, Su Dolphin, Illuminada Silver Trumpet, Hrorek Chevron, Thomas Quatrefoil, Marion Coral, Damien Sable Fret, John ap Griffin, Jared Seraph, and Cormac Battlement.

In June, there will be a non-submission get together in preparation for the move to Fullerton when Su takes over as Crescent. Upcoming meetings are: May 18th and July 13th.

Next week is Crown Tourney, please help.

With the advent of Oscar, the business of the college is much more public than it used to be. Please don't discuss commentary with the submitters. As before OSCAR, the commentary process is meant to be confidential. This is not because the College of Arms wishes to be "secretive". Rather, commentary is sometimes confusing, especially when taken out of context. Furthermore, even if the commentary seems to indicate that a submission in-process is likely to be returned or approved, it is not always indicative of the decision. Similarly, the discussions at kingdom heraldry meetings can be confusing to submitters, though is not meant to be confidential. The most reliable summary is either the published Laurel Letter of Acceptances and Returns or the published kingdom minutes available online.

November LOAR

• has a list of the applicants for Society level officers. Laurel will be selected at the April 19 meeting of the BOD, and Wreath/Pelican will be selected by Laurel with the approval of the BOD.
• Mundane names in letters of intent: the use of the submission process implies/constitutes permission to use their legal name publicly in connection with their SCA name.
• Persian names: Pasha is used in period and is now the approved term for Duke, Count and Viscount, and should follow the given name.
• A CD between wolf's head and talbot's head is question for commentary.
• Eyes and eyelashes are considered artistic detail. The sclera ("white" of the eye) is to be considered when looking at tincture conflict.

The minutes for this meeting were taken by Thomas Brownwell and Illuminada. They were edited by Crescent and Dolphin.

Unless otherwise noted, all submitters will accept the creation of a holding name, if appropriate. Approved submissions will be forwarded on the June 27, 2008 Letter of Intent.

Altavia, Barony of

Cecilia dei Medici. New name.

[Name] Submitted as Cecilia Medici. The submitter desires a feminine name. She will accept all changes.

Cecilia is documented from "Fourteenth Century Venetian Personal Names" by Arval Benicoeur.

Medici is an Italian family name. In our experience, the name always appears with the preposition "dei", meaning "of the family of". St. Gabriel has a list of names "Family Names Appearing in the Catasto of 1427" which shows Medici as occurring 31 times. We have added the preposition to match our documentation.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Cristophanus Castellani. New name.

[Name] The submitter desires a masculine name. If the name must be changed, he cares most about language/culture. The submitter has not indicated any other preferences.

Cristophanus is documented from "Masculine Names from Thirteenth Century Pisa" by Juliana de Luna. Three instances of the name appear in the source data.

Castellani is documented from "The Online Tratte of Officeholders in Venice: 1282-1532". 237 instances of the name appear in the source data.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Angels, Barony of the

Roís ní Brian. Kingdom resubmission device. Per fess argent and vert, a fess nebuly sable between a rose sable seeded argent and a rose argent seeded sable.

[Name] This name was registered 04/07.

[Armory] The submitter's previous submission, with an identical blazon, was returned by Crescent 08/07 for redraw of the fess. This emblazon greatly improves the size of fess and the clarity of the line of division.

Device is approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Reymund of Salisbury. Kingdom resubmission device. Lozengy azure and argent, a lion sejant erect guardant sustaining in its forepaws a baton dovetailed bendwise sinister Or.

[Name] This name was registered 08/98.

[Armory] The submitter's previous submission, Lozengy argent and azure, a lion sejant erect guardant maintaining in its forepaws a baton dovetailed bendwise sinister Or was returned by Crescent 02/07:

The color emblazons provided are color photocopiesy. (sic) Unfortunately, the Or did not reproduce well, leaving the lion appearing brownish. We are returning this device for this reason. We recommend that, on resubmission, the submitter consider drawing each lozenge in the field larger. If each lozenge were the size of four of these lozenges, it would help clarify the outline of the primary charge.

The proposed blazon specifies that the maintained charge is meant to be a lightning bolt. Though not reason for return, this is not drawn as a standard lightning bolt, so we have done our best to blazon what is drawn. If the submitter really desires a lightning bolt, we recommend consulting the Pictorial Dictionary or their local herald.

The tinctures on this resubmission are much clearer, and the larger lozenges do help identification of the primary charge. The question of the identity of the baton remains. This emblazon has the charge drawn much larger, making it equivalent to a co-primary charge. This status as a co-primary is necessary to clear the conflict with Ermine, a sword surmounted by a lion sejant erect Or, within a bordure invected azure. (Ulrich Vikingsjäger 02/82). This is either a complete change of primary charge or two CD's for change in field and the addition of the sword. However, while the larger lozenge size helps identification of the lion, we are still unable to adequately blazon the baton as it is mostly is on white, more difficult to read, and in an indeterminate posture between palewise and bendwise. Given these various problems, we apologize to the submitter for not previously more clearly stating the required changes and we are returning this at this time so that the submitter can redraw. (RfS VIII.3)

Device returned for redraw.

Calafia, Barony of

Anne Godwin of Tewkesbury. New Name

[Name] The submitter has not indicated any preferences.

Anne is documented from R&W (p.453, header) which lists Ann Treharne or Treyerne, 1573.

Godwin is a header spelling in R&W (pg. 195, header) with multiple spellings listed including Walter Godwin 1177. From the OE Godwine meaning "good friend". In addition, it is in Bardsley (pg. 323, header), undated.

of Tewkesbury is a locative byname based upon a parish and market town in Co. Gloucester. It is found in Bardsley (p.743, s.n. Tewksbury) which lists Mabel de Teuksbury 1273. Also in Ekwall (p.464, header), undated. Dated spellings include Teodekesberie DB, Theokesbiria 1107 (1300) Teokesberia 1168.

Approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Ceolwynn æt Galtris. New name.

[Name] Submitted as Coelwynn Aet Galtris. The submitter desires a feminine name. She will accept minor but not major changes and, if changes must be made, she cares most about unspecified sound, and culture.

Ceolwynn is documented from the PASE database which lists two women: the first spellied Ceolwin and the second Ceolwynn. Also, "Anglo-Saxon Women's Names from Royal Charters" by Marieke van de Dal lists Ceolwen (Latin), Ceolwenne (English) and Ceolwin (English) from c.900 and Ceolwynnes (English) 10th or 11c. All of the documentation has the vowel order "eo", not "oe", so we are correcting the name to reflect the documentation. In subsequent email conversation with the submitter, she confirms that the submitted spelling was an error on her part.

æt Galtris is a locative byname, "at the Galtres (forest)". This spelling is found in Ekwall (p.191, s.n. Galtres Forest) dated to 1191 and means 'Boar wood'. æt is OE, "at" found in the Compact OED (p. 132 COED = page 528 of the original OED). The submitting herald indicated that neither she nor the submitter was able to use the special character on their computer, so we are changing the spelling to match the documented form.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.

KendriÞ filia Gerald. New badge. Fieldless, a butterfly bendwise sinister argent.

[Name] This name was registered 10/85.

Badge approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Niese Feyen Otter. Kingdom resubmission device. Per fess vert and azure, on a fess argent two otters in anulo proper.

[Name] This name was forwarded 10/31/07.

[Armory] The submitter's previous submission, Per fess vert and azure, on a fess argent an otter flotant supine proper was returned by Crescent 11/07 for excessively natural depiction.

While we are copying the position for the blazon from the armory for Andrew Forres Clegg, (Fieldless) A sea-otter floatant supine pean, maintaining to chief with its forepaws an acorn Or (08/84 Merides), and believe that, while the position is natural for a otter, a new submission with this posture should be supported with evidence it was used in period armory. (RfS VIII.4.c Excessively natural designs include those that depict animate objects in unheraldic postures...)

The use of two otters in annulo avoids the previous problem of the posture.

Unfortunately, this conflicts with Per fess vert and azure, a fess argent (Sierra Leone, Important non-SCA armory). There is only a single clear difference for addition of the tertiary charges. (RfS X.4)

Device returned for conflict.

Serena Nickolei. Laurel resubmission device. Vert, a chevron cotised Or between two crosses fleury argent and a horse rampant Or.

[Name] Name registered 11/99.

[Armory] The submitter's previous submission, Vert, a chevron Or between two crosses of Cleves argent and a horse rampant Or was returned by Laurel 12/04 for conflict with Vert, a chevronel Or between in chief two bulldogs statant respectant argent, each gorged of a collar sable, studded argent, and in base a squirrel sejant erect Or holding in its forepaws an acorn argent, capped Or (Sterling of Toad Hall, 08/79). The addition of the cotises provides the necessary, second CD.

[Administrative] The submitter made efforts to submit this during the resubmission fee amnesty period. Given the early date of the March meeting (after a late change), we gladly accept this as "submitted in March '08".

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Sophia of Dehlingen. New name.

[Name] The submitter has not indicated any preferences.

Sophia is listed in this spelling on several St Gabriel reports ("Sophia* 12th C, ca.1130, 1145, 1190, 1197". Also, "was a moderately popular name in 13th and 14th century Germany". One of the original sources for this information was Talan Gwynek, "Medieval German Given Names from Silesia", i.e. Bahlow.

of Dehlingen is a locative byname. Dehlingen is the modern spelling of a village on the French-German border now in Alsace, France. The web site "D'Alsace en Lorraine, Histoires de familles" states that the name Dehlingen is from "The German name 'Dallo' and -ing suffix dated in this spelling to 1212. It also includes four other dated spellings (Deluquifiaga, Diluquifiaga 737, Dahlingen, 1212, Dalingen, 1321 and Delinguen 1361), but the site does not indicate which of its listed bibliographical sources these various spellings came from. The submitted name seems to be an acceptable combination of these dated names.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Þorfinnr brimill. Laurel resubmission device. Per pale azure and argent, a three headed dog statant contourney sable.

[Name] This name was registered 05/07.

[Armory] The submitter's previous design, Quarterly argent and sable, a cross azure between in bend two Latin Maltese crosses sable and in bend sinister a dog sejant and a dog sejant contourny argent was returned by Laurel 08/07, "This device is returned for marshalling as different charges are used in the argent and sable quarters. As crosses were used in period as overall charges on marshalled coats of arms, adding the cross does not remove the appearance of marshalling." This redesign does not have the appearance of marshalling.

This is clear of: (Fieldless) a Scottish terrier statant contourney sable (Malcolm Leslie the Scot, Mar 94), (Fieldless) a wolf courant contourney sable (Lorn Stark, Nov 98), and Gyronny gules and Or, a greyhound statant contourney sable (Isabeau della Chiara, Feb 01). In each case, there is a CD for changes to the field. We assume there is a CD between a three-headed dog and each of these, more-ordinary dogs.

Please note - the argent outline of the beast on the azure side of the field is artistic and not intended to be fimbriation. We suggest the submitter not use this type of outline in the future.

Device is approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Ulfrun beiskaldi. New name.

[Name] The submitter does not care about the gender of the name. The submitter allows minor, though not major changes and if changes must be made, cares most about the unspecified meaning.

Úlfrún is found in Geirr Bassi (p.15) as the feminine form of Úlfr, meaning "wolf". Unaccented names are acceptable in Norse, so we are forwarding the submitted form.

beiskaldi is also found in Gierr Bassi (p.19) listed as an epithet meaning "gripe, nag or bitch".

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Wölfel Wizsilberlin. Kingdom resubmission device. Vert, a bendlet gemell between a wolf's head couped and an oak leaf bendwise counterchaged.

[Name] The submitter's name was registered 12/07.

[Armory] The submitter's previous design, Per bend vert and argent, a bend between a wolf's head and an oak leaf bendwise counterchaged., was returned by Crescent 06/07:

This conflicts with Per bend vert and argent, a bend between a cross moline and a pine tree couped counterchanged (Richard of Rae Fen, 06/84) with only a single Clear Difference for change in secondary charges. Also, as submitted, the bend is too narrow to be registerable. Upon resubmission, we request submitter should avoid using colored pencils.

This redesign clears the above conflict with one CD for the field, a second CD for adding the second bendlet, and a third for complete change in secondary charges.

Device is approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Dreiburgen, Barony of

Sorcha inghean Chonaill – New Name.

[Name] Submitted as Sorcha inghean Conaill. The submitter desires a feminine name, will accept minor but not major changes, and if changes must be made is most interested in the language/culture "Irish/Celtic"..

Sorcha is found in Mari Elspeth nic Bryan's "Index of Names in Irish Annals": Sorcha

inghean Chonaill: daughter of Conall, which is also found in Mari's reference (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/mari/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Conall.shtml). The submitter has made an attempt at putting the byname in the genitive by altering the second vowel sound. Because the name is feminine, the "C" also lenites. We have made this additional change.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Vé{o,}rn Kveld-Úlfr Grímsson. New Name.

[Name] Submitted as Vé{o,}rn Kveldúlfer Grímsson. The submitter desires a masculine name. He will accept minor but not major changes, and if changes must be made, he cares most about the language and/or culture, "Viking".

Vé{o,}rn is found in Geirr Bassi (pg. 16).

Kveld-Úlfr is also found in Geirr Bassi (pg. 25). We note that this epithet means "werewolf". SCA convention does not capitalize Norse descriptive bynames, but both parts are capitalized by Geirr Bassi, so we retain that convention.

Grímsson is a patronymic, "son of Grímr" also from Geirr Bassi (pg. 10), following the author's convention for putting the father's name into the genitive as illustrated on pg. 17.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Galavally, Canton of

Gregor MacDonald. Kingdom resubmission badge. Per chevron Ploye throughout azure and gules, a tree Or.

[Name] The submitter's name was registered 11/06.

[Armory] This is a joint badge with Petronel Harlakenden. The submitter's most recent submission, with an identical blazon, was returned by Crescent 03/08 for redraw to clarify the field division. This line is drawn deeply enough and enough of the point shows above the tree that we can now easily identify the field division.

Badge approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Dun Or, Barony of

Edric Aaron Hartwood. Kingdom resubmission household name, House Dancing Sword and kingdom resubmission household badge. (Fieldless) a lotus blossom affronty within and conjoined to three scimitars in annulo argent.

[Name] The submitter's name was registered 04/93. The previous name submission Raqs b-Saif was returned by Crescent 04/07 for lack of documentation.

We have not found justification for the formation of the name as submitted. We considered whether this could be an inn sign name, however we do not feel that the concept "Dancing Sword" could be drawn clearly on a sign. We also discussed whether this was similar to period knightly orders and confraternities. Several of these used the word "sword", though the closest we found was (Order of the) Sword Bearers. (Perhaps, based on this, "Sword Dancers" might be registerable?) We found none of the pattern verb-noun. We feel that this name might be plausible for a performing troupe, though we have no resources listing period names for performing troupes.

[Armory] The submitter's previous device submission, with a blazon essentially the same as this one, was returned by Crescent 04/07 for use of incorrect submission form. The current submission fixes that problem. We note that the emblazon has changed, but the current depiction is still recognizably the same. This will be forwarded without the household association. (RfS III.2.b.iv)

Name returned for lack of documentation. Badge approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Pari al-Aflah. Kingdom resubmission name and device. Per bend azure and vert, a merman erect Or.

[Name] The submitter's previous submission, identical to this one, was returned by Crescent 03/08 for lack of documentation of the given name. The submitter has added documentation. She desires a feminine name authentic for "14th – 15th century Persian". She will allow minor, but not major changes, and if changes must be made she cares most about the meaning, "Pari = fairy in Farsi ... al-Aflah = felicitious (sic)".

Pari The submitter documents this from "Persian Feminine Names from the Safavid Period" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael & Ursula Georges which lists "Par{i^}-Kh{a^}n Kh{a^}num" dated 1551? or after 1554? and 1578 (two different individuals). The submitter states, "All I want is Pari". Also, an article on "Khalilullah Ali I" states, "They got him killed with the help of his sister, Pari Khan Khanum by poison in 985/1577". We also found the name in Schimmel (index, and pg. 46), where he indicates that it means "Fairy". Also noted on pg. 46, all of the instances are in combinations with "pari" as a prefix, as in Parikhan, Parizad, Parijan, and Parisima. Unfortunately, the submitter's added documentation still does not support the registration of the element "pari" alone. The one example where it appears to stand alone, "Pari Khan", is likely just an alternative transliteration of "Pari-khan" or "Parikhan". We must return this name for this reason.

al-Aflah is documented from an article, "Ismail bin Jafar Sadik (148-158/765-775)", which states, "It relates that Abdullah, surnamed al-Aftah, or al-Aflah". Also, the submitter includes an article on "Jamila bint Thabit bin Abi al-Aflah al-Ansariyya" which dates the individual with the statement, "She married Umar ibn al-Khattab (radiAllahu anhu) in the year 7 A.H." The 7th year of the Hijiran calendar would equate to approximately 629 of the common era. As there is less than 1000 years difference between the name elements, there is only one step from period practice for this reason. (Verifed 1000 year with LoAR cover letter from 11/06). (RfS II.1)

[Armory] The submitter's previous design, with essentially the same blazon, was returned by Crescent 03/08 for redraw of the merman. This emblazon is a great improvement. We believe this submission is clear of the following SCA armory: Per pale vert and sable, a mermaid erect embowed drawing a bow Or (Vincent of Winterpeak, 11/82). Also (Tinctureless) a merman, bow in dexter and arrow in sinister hand, tail raised to sinister (Colin of Duntamknackan, 08/79). Unfortunately, as holding names may not be assigned at the kingdom level, this must be returned for lack of a name. (AH A.1)

Name returned for lack of documentation. Device returned for lack of name.

Isles, Shire of

Sviatoslava Akilina Vasil'evskaia zhena Nicolaia. New name and device. Sable, on a bend sinister three pomegranates palewise gules seeded, slipped and leaved and in canton, a peacock feather Or.

[Name] The submitter desires a feminine name. She will accept all changes, and if changes must be made, she cares most about the meaning, "...daughter of Vasilii wife of Nikolai".

Sviatoslava is documented from "A Dictionary of Period Russian Names" by Paul Wickenden of Thanet p. 235, (www.sca.org/heraldry/paul). "Sviatoslava (f) – 'holy glory.' Fem of Sviatoslav" and "Sviatoslava. 1118 [Mor 175]".

Akilina Also from Wickenden p. 3 "Akilina (f) – 'eagle'" and "Akilina. 1612 [RIB XIV 217]"

Vasil'evskaia, Also from Wickenden., s.n. vasilii. "(Agripena Vasil'evskaia zhena Andreivicha). 1536. [Nik XIII 104]"

zhena Nicolai means "Nikolai's wife". Nikolai, Also from Wickenden dated to 1291 [RIB II 1].

There is no temporal disparity, and no conflict.

[Armory] The bend sinister should be drawn wider, which would allow the pomegranates to be larger. The peacock feather is difficult to identify and should also be redrawn. (RfS VII.7.a) There is also the possibility that the Or stems and leaves will not have enough contrast with the argent bend. (RfS VIII.2.b.ii) We must therefore return this at this time for more work.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel. Device returned for redraw.

Naevehjem, Barony of

Angus Storm Laurel resubmission device. Azure, a wood chisel blade to base and on a chief argent a cloud azure.

[Name] Registered 09/02

[Armory] The submitter's previous submission, Azure, in pale a cloud and a bat-winged tyger sejant affronty head to dexter wings displayed argent was returned by Laurel 09/01 for lack of identifiability.

This tyger's identity is completely lost due to the uncommon posture of the tyger, the particular rendition with the head obscured by the wing, and the uncommon bat-winged charge variant. This appears to be a dragon under any but the closest scrutiny. The identifying nose tusk of the tyger is laid against the no-contrast wing, the ears of the tyger are much like a dragon's, and any other details of the body are obscured by the sejant affronty position. This must be returned for unidentifiability. In a different posture, with all the body parts clearly visible, the bat-winged tyger should be identifiable.

This submission is a new design.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Bartholomew Gospatric. New name and device, Per chevron argent and gules, a chevron throughout counterchanged.

[Name] The submitter desires a masculine name. He will accept minor but not major changes.

Bartholomew is documented from Withycombe (p. 43 s.n. Barholomew) dated in this spelling to 1273.

Gospatric is in documented from Black, (p 174), "a common personal name in the 12thc. Spelled Gospatric in the Anglos Saxon Chronicle." Submitter prefers Gospatric but will accept Cospatric if required.

[Armory] At kingdom, we discussed whether the chevron here was throughout or not. On the original form, drawn on a computer, there was exactly one pixel space between the chevron and the chief line above it. Crescent feels this is too close not to call throughout.

Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Emeline of Mumbi. New name and device. Per saltaire gules and argent, a saltire sable.

[Name] The submitter will not accept any changes. No other preferences are indicated.

Emeline is found in Talan Gwynek's article "Feminine Given Names in a Dictionary of English Surnames" pg. 95, given year 1115. It is also in Withycombe (pg. 104, s.n. Emmeline) dated in this spelling to 1422.

of Mumbi is a locative byname. Mumbi is found in Ekwall (pg. 334, s.n. Mumby). A locative name from 1115 found in Lincolnshire.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Starkhafn, Barony of

Parzifal Sperlin. New name and device. Per pale gules and argent, a horse rampant and a wagon wheel counterchanged, a chief checky sable and argent.

[Name] The submitter will allow no changes. No other preferences are indicated.

Parzifal is documented from Seibicke, (Vol III, p.490, s.n. Parzifval) which lists Seiz Parzifal v. Dornsperg, 1407.

Sperlin is a byname found in Brechenmacher (V. II, p. 637, s.n. Sperlein), with Georg Sperlin aus Dietershausen dated to 1495. (This is on the no-photocopy list, however we could not find our copy to confirm this documentation. We assume that it is correct. )

[Armory] We discussed whether this design appears to be marshalling. We could find no precedent which tells us a chief does not remove the appearance of marshalling. Therefore, we forward this for consideration.

The chief is not perfectly-drawn with checks which are horizontally oblong. The division is, however, identifiable as "checky", so should be registerable, though may require a note to the submitter.

Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Western Seas, Barony of

Guillaume du Puits en Pierre. Kingdom resubmission name and device. Per pale argent and azure, a cross crosslet patty fitchy and a bordure embattled counterchanged.

[Name] The submitter desires a masculine name, and will accept no changes. The submitter's previous name submission, Guillaume Margelle du Puits en Pierre, was returned by Crescent for lack of documentation of the surname construction:

We must return this name for more work, though we believe the submitter is heading in the right direction. The main problem with the byname is that it is too specific. That is, if one's house is near the curbstone of a well, it is then also near the well as a whole. It is much more likely that people would say, "Guillaume lives near the well."

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We believe the name "Guillaume du puits en pierre" might be a registerable name.

The submitter has selected one of Crescent's suggestions.

Guillaume is in Dauzat (p.314), which tells us it is a very common baptismal name in the middle ages. ("n. de bapt. très répandu au moyen âge."

du Puits en Pierre is a constructed byname meaning "of the well-in-rock", or simply "of the rockwell". The term appears in modern archaeological papers and sales materials. It describes a wellhead carved from rock, often with a cover or roof. The simpler form "du Puits/Dupuis/Puis/Puits" ([of the] well) is a documentable, period byname. Dauzat says (p.224-5, s.n. Dupuis) that Dupuis is a common family name and means "house near with or near a well." ("n. de fam. répandu, var. plus rares Dupuit, Dupuits: << maison voisine du puits or possédant un puits >>") And, it appears that this name also appears without the marker. Dauzat (p.500, s.n. Puis, Puits) tells us that "Puis" and "Puits" are rarely met with without a marker ("rare isolé surtout avec prépos. et art.").

"Pierre" is found in Harap's Shorter French and English Dictionary by J.E. Mansion, M. Ferlin and P. Forbes (George G. Harrap & Co. Ltd., 1967) glossed as "stone." It does not mention "puits en pierre", but it does list "ouvrage en pierre" (stonework) and "outils en pierre" (flint implements). Given the very concrete nature of the phrase, we believe this extrapolation may be plausible for a toponomic name.

[Armory] The submitter's previous submission, Argent, a cross crosslet patee fitchy and a bordure embattled azure was returned by Crescent 03/08 for conflict with Argent a cross crosslet fitchy within a bordure embattled azure. (Óláfr Ojótarson of Øy 12/02) and redraw, "...the bordure is drawn far too thin and the embattled line of division should be drawn more boldly". This resubmission clears the conflict and fixes the emblazon problems.

Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.

Wintermist, Shire of

Einarr grabarðr. New name and device. Ermine, on a fess gules an ermine statant argent.

[Name] Submitted as Einarr Grabaror. No preferences were indicated.

Einarr is found in Gierr Bassi, (p. 9) as a given name.

gabárðr is found in Gierr Bassi, (p. 22) as the epithet "greybeard". Unaccented names are acceptable in Norse, so we are submitting it without the accent over the "a" to more closely match the submitted spelling. However, "ð" (eth) and "o" are different letters, so the change in spelling from "or" to "ðr" is required to match the documentation. It appears that the submitter misread the "ð" as an "o" in the source documentation. As he allows all changes we can fix the error. [Armory] This conflicts with Ermine, on a fess gules a lion passant Or (Randall of Hightower, 01/73). There is, at most, one clear difference for changes to charges on other charges.

Name approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel. Device returned for conflict.

Order of Precedence Notes

Guillaume du Puits en Pierre is William Rockwell.

Sviatoslava Akilina Vasil'evskaia zhena Nicolaia is found in the OP under a similar, though not identical name.

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