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Minutes of the April 24, 2005 meeting

[Note: These submissions appear on the Oct 05 LoAR, one pend on the May 06 LoAR]

Meeting commenced at 11:05AM.

In attendance were: Jeanne Marie Crescent, Lachlan Dolphin, Illuminada Silver Trumpet, Su Battlement¸ Kurt Sommelier, Thomas Brownwell, Damien Sable Fret, Douglas Flame, Selene Aurum, Jared Alexandre Blaydeaux, Catherine de Winter, Davin Mac Alister of Drake's Height, Elspeth Charissa aus Reinwald, Balthazar Seraph, Bruce Oak Leaf, Eirikr Gold Phoenix, Elizabeth Goodechild, and Martin Moteyro do Monte.

The schedule for the rest of the year: May 8th (changed to avoid conflict with Altavia Anniversary), June 26th (changed to avoid mundane conflict), July 10th, August 7th, September 11th (Sept. Crown name/armory submissions due), October 2nd, November 6th, and December 4th.

Jeanne Marie announced that she will be stepping down as Crescent at Queen's Champion; Lachlan will be stepping up as Crescent. The new Laurel Queen of Arms is Elisabeth de Rossignol. Margaret is remaining as Pelican, and Jeanne Marie will be Wreath (as soon as she steps down as Crescent).

Quarterly reports are overdue, please get them in. A roster warrant will be signed at Coronation - please send Crescent your warrant information: modern name, SCA name, contact information, SCA number and expiration date, title and rank, and when your term of office expires (for territorial heralds).

In the interest of promoting a more "period" feel within the College, Crescent has decided to replace the heraldic rank "Cornet" with the rank "Macer". The original rank, "Cornet" was chosen as a little joke which essentially went, "If a herald is a trumpet, a little herald must be a little trumpet, for example a cornet." Macer, on the other hand, is at least based upon a position in the hierarchy of late-period Scottish heralds. A Macer was a minor official of the Lion King of Arms, so named because the officer carried a ceremonial mace or wand.

From this point forward, heralds who have not yet reached the rank of pursuivant may style themselves according to the new practice. Should the new herald be a warranted officer, they might append the rank to the title of their office, for example, "Gold Forest Macer".

Submissions marked with † were accepted at Collegium Caidis.

Approved submissions will be forwarded to Laurel on the June 24, 2005 Letter of Intent.


al-Sahid, Shire of

Martin Monteyro do Monte. New Name.

[Name] The submitter is interested in a masculine name authentic for 16th Century. He will accept minor changes but will not allow major changes, and if the name must be changed, he cares most about the meaning, "Huntsman of the Mountain.".

The documentation is from Aryanhwy merch Catmael' "Portuguese Names from Lisbon, 1565" (http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/portuguese/lisbon1565.html).

Martin is listed as a masculine given name, appearing in this spelling 17 times.

Monteyro is listed as a surname and is glossed as "a hunter, huntsman" (masculine).

do Monte is listed as a surname and is glossed as "of the mountain".

The article notes "The total number of people who had more than one byname makes up a very small fraction of the total number of recorded names." The most common form is <patronymic> + <locative> or <patronymic> + <descriptive>. Less common is the form used in the submitted name, <descriptive> + <locative>.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Altavia, Barony of

Altavia, Barony of. New order name Order of the Argent Fret.

[Name] The barony's name was registered 07/83. This follows the form of their current service award Sable Fret of Altavia (registered 08/84). The form <heraldic tincture> Fret is grandfathered to the barony. The barony intends inclusion in this order to be awarded for the Arts & Sciences. The submission includes a letter of support signed by Baron, Baroness and witnessed by the local herald.

Order name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Altavia, Barony of. New order name Order of the Vert Fret.

[Name] The barony's name was registered 07/83. This follows the form of their current service award Sable Fret of Altavia (registered 08/84). The form <heraldic tincture> Fret is grandfathered to the barony. The barony intends inclusion in this order to be awarded to Fighters. The submission includes a letter of support signed by Baron, Baroness and witnessed by the local herald.

Order name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Meliora Deverel. New name.

[Name] The submitter is interested in a feminine name authentic for 14th c. Cornish. She will allow minor but not major changes; and if the name must be changed she cares most about the sound.

She has a letter from St. Gabriel (report 2923) which indicates that Meliora Deverel is a reasonable name for a 14th C English-speaking woman in Cornwall.

We do note that <Meliora>, at least, is considered to be exclusively Cornish. Its first recorded use is in 1218, and several variants were popular as late as the 17th and early 18th centuries, making it a fine choice [2].

The surname <Deverill> derives from several placenames in Cornwall and Wiltshire. Examples from your period include <Deverel> 1324, 1326, 1362, <Dyfyrl> 1340, <Defriel> 1356 [3, 4, 5]. It is a fine surname for your period. The spellings with <f> are more typical of Cornish than English, so in an English context we recommend <Deverel>.

[2] Bice, Christopher, _Names for the Cornish_ (Padstow, Cornwall: Lodenek Press, 1975); Names for Girls s.nn. <Elowen>, <Melyor>.

[3] Reaney, P. H., & R. M. Wilson, _A Dictionary of English Surnames_ (London: Routledge, 1991; Oxford University Press, 1995); s.n. <Deverall>.

[4] _Cambridge Dictionary of English Place-Names, Based on the Collections of the English Place-Name Society_, Edited by Victor Watts, Edited in association with John Insley, Margaret Gelling (Cambridge University Press: January 2004); s.n. Deverill.

[5] G. Pawley White, _A Handbook of Cornish Surnames_, (Camborne, Cornwall: G. Pawley White, 1972); s.n. <Deveril>.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Angels, Barony of the

Angels, Barony of. Release of Heraldic Title. Seraphim Pursuivant.

[Name] The group name was registered "At some point." The title Seraphim Pursuivant was registered to Caid, Kingdom of 08/87 for the barony's use and transferred to the barony 05/04. Also, the title Seraph Pursuivant was registered to West, Kingdom of 04/81 for the barony's use and transferred to Caid, Kingdom of 08/87 and transferred to the barony 05/04.

The barony does not wish to use the title Seraphim and has submitted a letter requesting its release. The letter is signed by the Baron, Baroness, Seneschal and Seraph.

Approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Caillin O'Neill. New name.

[Name] The submitter is interested in a feminine name from the Irish culture, though she does not request changes to make the name authentic. She will accept all changes, and if the name must be changed, she cares most about the sound.

Caillín is found as a masculine given name in OCM (s.n. Caillene, p. 42); it is the header form following the colon. There is a St. Caillín. Accents may be dropped in Gaelic, as long as they are consistently dropped, so Caillin is as valid rendering of Caillín.

O'Neill is documented in Woulfe's Irish Names and Surnames, (s.n. Ó Néill p. 625): "In the reign of Henry VIII, Conn Ó Néill, … was created Earl of Tyrone." Note that the name is the Anglicized version. A name combining Anglicized Irish and Gaelic is one step from period practice (q.v. Banbnat MacDermot, 09/01). In addition, the name may be in conflict with that of Killian O'Neal. We will forward this name for consideration by Laurel and Pelican.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Thomas Whitehart. Kingdom resub device. Azure, a stag courant argent between three harps two and one Or.

[Name] The submitter's name was registered 04/97.

[Armory] The submitter's previous submission, Azure, in pale a harp Or and a stag courant argent, was returned 03/05 by Crescent for conflict with Ireland, Azure, a harp Or stringed argent. The current submission is similar to the SCA arms of Megan Rhys (03/93), Azure, a Pegasus statant argent between three harps Or. While there is no difference for posture, we believe there is an X.2 difference between a winged horse and a stag.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Calafia, Barony of

Catyln Kinnesswood. New name and device. Purpure, a cross Moline disjointed argent.

[Name] Name submitted as Caitlin Kinnesswood. The submitter desires a feminine name. No other boxes are marked.

Recent precedent has disallowed the registration of Caitlin:

Submitted as Caitlin O'Sullivan, Caitlin is a modern form of this name and, by precedent, not registerable:

Caitilín ni Killane. Submitted as Caitlín ni Killian, there were some issues with this name. No documentation was provided and none was found that the form Caitlín was used in period, though evidence was found of it as a modern name. We have changed the given name to the documented Early Modern Irish Gaelic (c. 1200 to c. 1700) form Caitilín in order to register this name. [Trimaris-A, LoAR 09/2003]

The submitter accepted major changes, so we have changed the name to Catyln O'Sullivan, which uses a form of the given name dated to 1441 in Reaney and Wilson, A Dictionary of English Surnames, s.n. Catlin. This puts the name in a fully Anglicized form. [Catyln O'Sullivan, 06/04, A-Atenveldt]

In accordance with this precedent, we have changed the given name to Catyln.

What appears to be the official website for Kinnesswood notes, "From the 16th Century until 1926 the village was an important centre for the manufacture of Parchment and Vellum." (http://www.kinross.cc/kinross/kinnesswood.htm).

[Device] We believe there is an X2 different in type of cross against Celestria of Celtenhomme (01/03) Purpure, a cross crescenty argent. Against Rafael de Diego de Burgos (06/83), Purpure, on a cross Moline argent. a cross couped purpure, and in base two bars wavy argent, there is a CD for removing the secondary charges. There is technically a CD for removing the tertiary cross; however, we are unsure how similar the Catyln's and Rafael's crosses appear.

Name approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel. Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Delina Natali. New name.

[Name] The submitter is interested in a feminine name. She will accept no changes, and if the name must be changed she cares most about the language/culture (16th Century Italy).

Delina is found is De Felice Nomi (s.n. Dèlia, p.125). The entry appears to say that the name was used throughout Italy; it was a classical name whose use was resumed in the renaissance. ("Ampiamente diffuse in tutta l'Italia, è un nome di matrice classica, mitolofica e letteraria, ripreso dal Rinascimento"

Natali is found in De Felice Cognomi (s.n. Natali, p.176). The entry states that the name was used throughout all of Italy, especially in Venice. We believe this is a proper patronymic form of Natale, which is dated to 4th-5th centuries in De Felice Nomi (s.n. Natale, pp. 272-273). In Cognomi it is noted that the name was commonly given as a baptismal name to those born on December 25th ("poi al giorno della ascita di Gesù, e infine diffusosi come nome di battesimo data a bambini nati il giorno di Natale.")

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Dirk Ivanovich. New name change from Direk Ivanovich.

[Name] The submitter's current name, Direk Ivanovich, was registered 08/95. The submitter is interested in a masculine name, and will accept no changes. If this name is registered, the submitter wishes the old name to be released.

Dirk is the submitter's modern name as attested by the copy of his driver's license.

Ivanovich is already registered to the submitter.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Elizabeth of Roxbury Mill. Kingdom resub. device. Argent, a ladybug gules spotted sable and on a chief gules two roses argent leaved vert and seeded gules.

[Name] The submitter's name was registered 02/01.

[Armory] Her previous submission, Argent, a ladybug gules spotted sable and in chief two roses gules barbed and seeded proper, was returned at the 09/12/04 CoH meeting for conflict with Sheherezon Sequora Maximilian (06/75), Argent, a ladybug proper. Moving the roses onto a chief clears that conflict.

[Armory] Her previous submission, Argent, a ladybug gules spotted sable and in chief two roses gules barbed and seeded proper, was returned at the 09/12/04 CoH meeting for conflict with Sheherezon Sequora Maximilian (06/75), Argent, a ladybug proper. Use of the charged chief clears that conflict.

We are aware of the precedent that there is no proper for a ladybug (q.v. Morgan Skeene, 09/01, A-Calontir), despite the fact that there are ladybugs proper registered. We request that Laurel reconsider this ruling as we believe that everyone hearing the blazon ladybug proper would correctly color the insect with these tinctures (gules marked sable).

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Gemma Rosalia. Kingdom resub. device. Purpure, three increscents in bend between two ferrets statant argent.

[Name] The submitter's name was forwarded to Laurel on the Caid LoI of 12/18/2004.

[Armory] Her previous submission was returned by Crescent 10/04 for a redraw as the charges where unidentifiable. The current submission is a much more recognizable rendering of this blazon.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Gwenhwyvar verch Owein. New name and device. Per pale vert and purpure, a squirrel rampant and in base a crescent Or.

[Name] The submitter is interested in a feminine name. She will accept no changes.

Gwenhwyvar is found in Morgan & Morgan (s.n. Gwenhwyfar, p. 109). It is dated in this spelling to the 16th C, and to 1597.

Owein is found in Morgan & Morgan, (s.n. Owain, p. 172) where it states "in med. texts... Owein is the standard version, e.g. the hero in the story Iarlles y Ffynhawn in the WM and RM texts is Owein" WM is mid-14th C, and RM is 1382-1410.

This should be clear of Gwenhwyvar verch Owen ap Morgan (04/98) with the removal of a generation.

[Armory] Conflict with Alasdair MacEogan (02/97), (Fieldless) A squirrel sejant erect Or. This is not a CD between rampant and sejant erect, leaving a single CD for the field.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel. Device returned for conflict.


Katherine of Roxbury Mill. New name.

[Name] The submitter is interested in a feminine name. She has marked that she will accept major changes but not minor changes. We interpret this as meaning she will not accept any changes.

Katherine is found in Talan Gwynek's "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames" (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/reaneyintro.html) with "Katherine 1316 Curzon; 1325 xl; 1392 Bathurst; 1510 Wenborn; 1516 Chipperfield; 1597 Elesender."

Roxbury Mill, Shire of (in Atlantia) was registered 03/95. It is also the registered byname of the submitter's mother (Elizabeth of Roxbury Mill, registered 02/01).

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Kean de Lacy. New alternate name Owen Bytheway.

[Name] The submitter's primary name was registered 11/98. The submitter is interested in a masculine name. He will accept no changes.

Owen is found as a masculine given name in Withycombe (s.n. Owen, p.237). It is dated in this spelling to 1200, 1273, and 1492.

Bytheway is found in Reaney & Wilson (header, p.78). It is undated in this spelling, though other spellings are dated to 1243 (Bithewaye) and 1244 (Bethewy). One the same page (s.n. Bythesea) William Bythesee is dated to 1336 so Bytheway seems to be a reasonable variant of Bithewaye.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Kynedriþ filia Gerald. Kingdom resub. name and device. Sable, an hourglass bendwise and a bordure embattled argent.

[Name] The submitter does not care about the gender of her name. She will accept any changes; and if the name must be changed, she cares most about the sound. Her previous submission, Kendryth filia Gerald, was returned 01/04 by Crescent for lack of documentation of the construction of Kendryth.

Kynedriþ is one of the spellings recommended on Crescent's return. It is found in "Anglo-Saxon Women's Names from Royal Charters" by Merieke van de Dal (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/marieke/anglosaxonfem/).

filia is Latin for "daughter of"

Gerald is found in Withycombe, p.130, as the header spelling. Though undated in this form, Withycombe says it "was used regularly in the Middle Ages." Gerald is also found in Reaney & Wilson, p.188, with Richard Gerald, 1277.

[Armory] Her previous submission, Sable, an hourglass bendwise argent, was returned for conflict in 01/04 with Gareth de Grey (01/98), Sable, an hour glass argent. Adding the bordure clears that conflict.

Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Rosamund Kinnish. New name and device. Vert, a moon in her plentitude argent, a chief embattled Or.

[Name] The submitter desires a feminine name, and will accept all changes (submitter changed her mind prior to submission).

Rosamund is found in Withycombe (s.n. Rosamund, p. 258) where Rosamund Clifford (died 1176) is cited. Withycombe notes "Rosamund, .. survived the Renaissance and was fairly common in the 17th C, usually spelt Rosamond".

Kinnish is found in R&W (s.n. Kynnish, p. 266) with Kynnish dated to 1626. We believe the i/y switch is reasonable, e.g. de Kinnard 1204/ de Kynnard 1296 (s.n. Kinnaird p. 266, R&W).

[Device] We have found an SCA conflict with the armory of Prudence the Curious (09/90), Vert, an egg argent and a chief embattled Or, Sept '90. There is at most one CD, and possibly no difference at all with the registered arms.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel. Device returned for conflict.


Sean Akridge. New name and device. Argent, three chevronelles gules between three winged stags azure.

[Name] The submitter is interested in a masculine name. He will accept minor but not major changes and if changes must be made, he cares most about the language/culture ("Scotch-English"). No documentation was provided.

Sean Akridge is too aurally similar to the submitter's mundane name of John Akridge, as Sean conflicts with John (q.v. Sean Andrews, 1996.08).

We were unable to find documentation for the surname Akridge, either in Reaney & Wilson's Surnames or Johnson's Placenames. This name is the submitter's mundane name (as provided with a photocopy of his military ID.

[Device] These arms conflict with the arms of Cardinal Richelieu (important non-SCA arms) Argent, three chevrons gules. There is a single CD for adding the secondary charge group.

Name returned for conflict. Device returned for conflict.


Thomas Brownwell. New alternate name Haye Finne.

[Name] The submitter's primary name was registered in 07/90. Submitted as Hei Finne. The submitter is interested in a masculine name. He will accept any changes, and if the name must be changed, he cares most about the sound (sounds like "hy-phen"). The submitter notes: "I would prefer 'Hai' as the spelling of the first name, but am unsure if it can be justified."

The name Hei is a patronymic and could not be used as a prenom. The name was changed with the submitter present. Haye is found in Bahlow Gentry (s.n. Hay, p. 203) as the header spelling, meaning "ranger, guard."

Finne is found in Bahlow Gentry, (s.n. Finn, p. 123), meaning "bog, wet area."

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Summergate, Canton of

Cormac MacLeoid. New name.

[Name] The submitter is interested in a masculine name. He will accept all changes and if changes must be made, he cares most about the meaning, "son of the ugly wolf".

Cormac is found in OCM (s.n. Cormacc, p. 60), it is the early modern Irish form. There are several saints named Cormac. Cormac Mac Carthaig, king of Munster, was slain in 1138. Cormac is also in Sharon Krossa's "A Simple Guide to Constructing 12th Century Scottish Gaelic Names." (http://www.medievalscotland.org/scotnames/simplescotgaelicnames12.shtml).

MacLeòid is found in Black (s.n. Macleod, p. 538) where it notes that Mac Leòid is the Gaelic form. Léod is found as the standard constructed from of Léot in Sharon Krossa's article cited above. When forming a patronymic, the genitive form of the name is used, which we believe to be Leòid. Thus the patronymic, with the accents dropped, is MacLeoid.

We note that the name should be registerable as submitted, but we see no evidence it has the meaning that the submitter desires.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Mael Anfaid MacLeoid. New name.

[Name] The submitter does not care about the gender of the name. She will accept all changes and if changes must be made she cares most about the culture, "Gaelic" and the meaning, "devotee of the storm".

Máel Anfaid is found as a masculine given name in OCM (p. 129, header); the name is glossed as "devotee of the storm". There is a St. Máel Anfaid. OCM notes "This name fell into disuse at an early period." The submitter did not include accent marks, which can be omitted in Gaelic names as long as they are consistently omitted.

MacLeòid is found in Black (s.n. Macleod, p. 538) where it notes that Mac Leòid is the Gaelic form. Léod is found as the standard constructed form of Léot in Sharon Krossa's article "A Simple Guide to Constructing 12th Century Scottish Gaelic Names" (http://www.medievalscotland.org/scotnames/simplescotgaelicnames12.shtml). When forming a patronymic, the genitive form of the name is used, which we believe to be Leòid. Thus the patronymic, with the accents dropped, is MacLeoid. We believe that the combination of Scottish Gaelic and Irish Gaelic is at most one step from period practice, and is thus registerable.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Dreiburgen, Barony of

Hélène de Lyon. New name and device. Gules, a key palewise wards to base argent.

[Name] The submitter is interested in a feminine name. She will accept no changes.

Hélène This is the submitter's modern name. The submitter supplied a copy of her birth certificate, which includes the accents as submitted.

de Lyon is found in Dauzat (s.n. Lyon, p. 401) where it notes "<<originaire de Lyon>>; confusion avec Lion, notament dans les n. Israelites."

[Armory] The default for a key is fesswise, wards to dexter. This is clear of the Society badge for seneschals, Gules, a key fesswise Or (01/73), with a CD for the tincture of the key and another for its orientation (wards to base vs. wards to chief).

We note that these arms would conflict with the unprotected arms of the city of Bremen, Gules, a key bendwise ward to chief argent with a single CD for change in orientation of the key. These arms were considered, but not protected, in Daud's second tenure (shown in the 2nd Combined Precedents) with the comment that "Though a large port city (one from which a large percentage of emigrants leaving for America sailed in the last 150 years), nothing else about the city or its arms seems to place it in the same category as those considered important enough to protect". We note that the standards for making this decision have changed, potentially substantially, since this decision was made, and under the current standards, a substantial part of the Caidan College is of the opinion that the arms of Bremen should be protected.

  • The Free Hansa City of Bremen, Freie Hansestadt Bremen, (including both the cities of Bremen and Bremerhaven), is the site of the oldest archbishopric in Germany (founded in 845), which at its height included in addition to the land between the Weser and Elbe, all of Scandanavia, Iceland, and Greenland. The city itself was a member of the Hanseatic League beginning in the 13th C, was expelled and rejoined in 1358. The city became a free imperial city in 1648. As such Bremen was a significant sovereign entity, rather than a member of a larger sovereign state. This general status continued into relatively modern times, with the “Republic and Free Hansa City” of Bremen being a member of the German Empire and Weimar Republic. Further details may be found in any good gazetteer; the details in this note are based on the Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer of the World (Leon E. Seltzer, Columbia University Press, 1952).
  • On the recognizability of the arms themselves, we note with some humor that Bremen's arms are displayed, in reverse, on every bottle and can of Beck's beer, and will be readily recognized on this basis, in addition to the extent to which they are known due to the modern importance of the city as a major port and center of emigration.

Given the need to discuss the potential conflict with Bremen, the College of Heralds wishes to explicitly note that the armory submitted is an excellent, classic design.

Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Katerine la Petita d'Avignon. Kingdom resub device. Per bend gules and sable, a kraken bendwise Or.

[Name] This name appears on the March 28, 2005 Letter of Intent from Caid.

[Device] The submitter's previous design, Per bend gules and sable, a kraken Or was returned by Crescent 02/05 for conflict with Atlantia's Order of the Kraken, (Fieldless) A kraken Or (04/96). Rotating the primary charge clears this conflict.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Gyldenholt, Barony of

Ailill Mac Darach. New name.

[Name] Submitted as Ailill Mac Darragh. This was submitted on a "Group Name Form". We have transferred it to a standard Name Submission form. We are uncertain whether the submitter desires a masculine or feminine name, as Group Name Forms do not have that information. He will accept all changes and if the name must be changed, he cares most about the meaning, "Elf like an oak" and notes that he "wishes to keep the name in Gaelic.

Ailill is found as a masculine given name in OCM (s.n. Ailill, pg. 17) who state, "Perhaps the fourth most popular male name in early Ireland".

(Mac) Darragh is a header in MacLysaght (p. 75), undated. We note that Woulfe indicates that this is the Anglicized version of the name. Since the submitter requests a Gaelic name, we have changed it to the closest Gaelic form listed in Woulfe (s.n. Mac Dara, pg. 349), namely Mac Darach. We note that this name more closely means "sprite, son of Oak".

Name approved as changed and approved to Laurel.


Annora Wallace. New name and device. Checky sable and argent, a bend sinister azure.

[Name] The submitter is interested in a feminine name. She will accept minor but not major changes.

Annora is found as a feminine given name in Withycombe (s.n. Honor(i)(a), pp. 154-5) and is dated in the submitted spelling to 1187-1215, 1275, and 1302, 1316.

Wallace is found in Black (s.n. Wallace, p. 799) where it states "Wallace is therefore most probably a native name meaning a Strathclyde Briton" and Sir William Wallace is dated to 1305.

Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Heatherwyne, Shire of

Jarucha Delamare. New device. Per fess indented azure and gules, a dance argent between a Latin cross fleury and a pilgrim's purse Or.

[Name] The submitter's name was registered 11/01.

[Armory] We note that the purse could be drawn larger, and the dance should be drawn higher.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Lyondemere, Barony of

Magnus Mac Cormac. New name and device. Per chevron sable and gules, a dexter and a sinister hand inverted in chevron and a human eye Or.

[Name] The submitter is interested in a masculine name. He will accept no changes. He does not allow the creation of a holding name.

Magnus is found in Black (s.n. Magnus, p. 572) where it is listed as an Old Norse personal name. Magnus is OCM (s.n. Magnus, p. 132), where they state, "In Ireland it did not become popular until the late twelfth century." OCM also note "Down to the late nineteenth century it was still popular in the north…".

Cormac is found in Black (s.n. Cormack, Cormac, p. 171) where it gives the name as an old Gaelic personal name. It is also found as a masculine given name in OCM (s.n. Cormacc, p. 60) where it is dated from 713. MacCormac is found in Woulfe's Irish Names and Surnames (s.n. Mac Cormaic, p. 344), where this spelling is listed as an anglicized version of an MacCormaic, "a common surname in all parts of Ireland."

Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Marion FitzThomas. New name and device. Argent, on a bend azure, three books argent, on a chief sable an arrow Or.

[Name]The submitter is interested in a feminine name from the Norman language and/or culture though she is more interested in the FitzThomas and location (England) than the time period. Also, she does not request changes to make the name authentic. She will accept minor but not major changes.

Marion is found as a feminine given name in Withycombe (s.n. Marion, p. 209) where it states the name "was common in the Middle Ages and later". Marion is dated to 1379, 1402

Fitz - literally "son of".

Thomas is found in Withycombe (s.n. Thomas, pp. 279-80) where it states "In the later Middle Ages Thomas was one of the commonest men's names"

FitzThomas is submitted as an inherited surname similar to Marger Fitzharberd dated 1421. (s.n. FitzHerbert, p. 170, R&W) and Margaret Fethwilliam dated 1509, (FitzWilliam, p 171 R&W).We note that the period examples do not have capitalization in the middle of the surnames, while R&W's headers do. We are not certain when this capitalization came into practice and are thus sending this to Laurel as submitted.

Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Naevehjem

Gregory Falcon. New name.

[Name] The submitter is interested in a masculine name. He will accept minor changes; and if the name must be changed he cares most about the sound of the name. The submitter prefers the spelling Falcon but if it must be changed for registration, prefers Fakoun.

Gregory is found as a masculine given name in Withycombe (s.n. Gregory, p. 139) where it states it "was common in the 12th C and later".

Falcon is found in R&W (s.n. Falcon, p. 161). The submitted spelling is undated; dated spellings include Falcun 1187, Faukun 1318, Fakoun, Faucoun 1346. We note that header spellings are generally registerable.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Starkhafn, Barony of

Elspeth of Stillwater. New device. Per bend gules and purpure, a bend argent between a dragon passant regardant argent and a threaded needle bendwise Or.

[Name] The submitter's name was registered 08/00.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Ishikawa Akirakeiko. Laurel resub. device. Sable, a demi sun argent and a ford proper.

[Name] The submitter's name was registered 09/02.

[Armory] His previous submission, Argent, in pale a demi-sun and a Japanese stream sable, was returned by Laurel 02/03 as a Japanese stream cannot be blazoned in European heraldic terms. The time period for free resubmissions is one year; as the Laurel return was more than two years ago, payment is required.

Device returned for lack of payment.


Mina de Valençia y Alcasar. New name and device. Gules, a tierce counter ermine.

[Name] The submitter is interested in a feminine name authentic for 14th C Navarre. She will accept all changes; and if the name must be changed she cares most about the language/culture.

Mina is documented to 1343 per "Jewish Women's Names in Navarre" by Julie Stampnitzky (http://www.yucs.org/~jules/names/navarra.html [may be the same as http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juetta/nav_intro.html])

The other name elements are documented to period per "Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century" by Juliana de Luna (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/isabella/index.html). Compound names were at least used rarely in period: "A quick survey of the first 4000 names (A-C) in the sixth volume of the Catalogo (dating around 1580), shows of those names, 5 had possibly four elements, and none had five. .... The other two use the modern y formation: Diego García de Montalvo y Colindra and Miguel Jeronimo de Mendoza y Arquillada. [The name was returned.] (Constanzia Maria Morales Enzina d'Zamora, 10/97 p.11)".

[Device] The device is returned for lack of contrast. For application of the rule of tincture, counter-ermine is considered a color, due to its sable ground, and therefore a counter-ermine charge cannot be placed upon a gules field.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel. Device returned for lack of contrast.


Muirenn ingean meic Martain. Laurel resub. device. Per fess vert and sable, a winged hand argent.

[Name] The submitter's name was registered 01/02.

[Armory] Her first submission, Per fess vert and sable, issuant from a vol argent a sinister hand argent was returned by Laurel 08/03 with the comment:

Conflict with Francois le Féroce, Per chevron vert and argent, in chief two wings addorsed argent. There is one CD for changing the field. The wings "addorsed" are effectively displayed and separated, and are not different from two similar wings conjoined into a vol. The hand in this submission is effectively maintained by the vol and its addition is not worth difference. There is no difference for the location of the wings on the field. The argent wings in Francois' badge may not overlap the argent portion of the field and thus must be placed entirely on the vert portion of the field, in chief. Because the placement of the wings in Francois' armory is forced by the field ("caused by other changes to the design"), it is thus is not worth difference by RfS X.4.g.

Her latest submission, Per fess vert and sable, issuant from a vol a hand Or, was returned by Crescent 03/05 with the comment:

As this is the same artwork as originally submitted, the hand is still effectively a maintained charge. Thus this conflicts with Brioc Morcannuc (May 98) Azure, a vol Or. There is one CD for changing the field, but as the hand is maintained, there is no CD for adding it.

The submitter did her best to follow the instructions of Laurel and Crescent and drew the hand much larger. There is no doubt that the hand is now worth difference. Unfortunately, the wings have been reduced enough to make them in danger of being ruled maintained instead. If this were the case, this design would conflict with Kenric Manning (09/00), Lozengy azure and Or, a hand argent.

If this design is interpreted as a winged hand, we note that winged charges are typically given a CD from the charge unmodified. For example, "[a bear vs. a winged bear] There is one CD for removing the wings ... [Wilhelm Bär, 02/03, R-Calontir]" and [winged boars vs. boars] There is one CD for the number of boars and another for removing the wings:

[A winged wolf] Conflict with ... a wolf ... there is only one CVD for adding the wings. (LoAR October 1991 p.16).

[Ruaidhri ua Ceallaigh, 09/01, A-Calontir]."

If this is interpreted as a hand conjoined to a vol, both charges are of similar size and should be considered co-primary. The distance from wingtip to wingtip is approximately the same as from wrist to fingertips of the hand. The wings have slightly less visual weight due to their shape, but should be considered co-primary according to current precedent:

[a sea-lion sustaining a sword bendwise sinister] The sword in this emblazon is as long as the sea-lion is tall. The sea-lion has notably more visual weight than the sword because the sea-lion is many times wider than the sword. This lead some members of the College to question whether the sword should be considered a maintained charge rather than a sustained charge. However, there is precedent indicating that the sword in this emblazon should be considered a sustained charge:

[a bear rampant contourny sustaining a halberd] Regarding the "significance" of the halberd, as Green Crown noted, a charge consisting mostly of a long skinny handle will always have difficulty matching the visual weight of other charges, but here the sizes of the charges are about the same as would be expected if they were in fess a bear and a halberd. That seems to be a reasonable rule of thumb for determining sustained (and qualifying for a CD), as opposed to maintained (and not qualifying for a CD), charges. (LoAR September 1994 p. 9)

In arms with a sea-lion and a sword in fess, the sword would be as long as the sea-lion is tall. Therefore, this sword should be considered a sustained charge. [Atlantia, Kingdom of, 02/02, A-Atlantia].

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Western Seas, Barony of

Hugo das Baldheart. New name and device. Per chevron argent and ermine, on a chevron vert three hearts Or, in chief, two crescents all within a bordure embattled sable.

[Name] The submitter is interested in a masculine name authentic for German language/culture. He will accept all changes and if changes must be made, he cares most about the meaning (unspecified) and language/culture.

Hugo is found in "Medieval German Given Names from Silesia: Men's Names" by Talan Gwynek (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/bahlow/bahlowMasc.html). It is dated in this spelling to 1410.

Baldheart is a constructed name. "Bald-" is listed as an Old English prototheme on "Gothic Names" (http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Salon/3285/gothnames.html [ed. note: link dead July 2005]). The submitter does not offer documentation for the deuterotheme "-heart". We cannot justify this construction in German, French or English, so we are returning the name.

[Device] This device has a complexity count of nine. All of the elements are nicely drawn except the embattling (drawn too thin). The rule of thumb for complexity is eight; exceptions may be made for armory that is well-balanced and of a period design (usually Tudor). As this is neither well-balanced nor apparently period style, it is being returned for complexity. Even if the armory wasn't overly complex it would have to be returned for lack of a name.

Name retuned for lack of documentation. Device returned for complexity.


Katerina von Karlingen. New name and device. Sable, in fess three crescents argent between in chief a demi sun and in base a demi sun inverted within a bordure Or.

[Name] Submitted as Katerina Von Karling. The submitter is interested in a feminine name authentic for German language/culture. She will accept all changes, and if the name must be changed, she cares most about the meaning (unspecified) and language/culture.

Katerina is found in "Medieval German Given Names from Silesia: Women's Names" by Talan Gwynek (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/talan/bahlow/bahlowFem.html). It is dated to 1348.

The submitter does not supply documentation for the surname. The preposition von should be all lower case; we have made that change. Columbia-Lippencott (q.v. Carling, p. 334) shows a locale in NE France on the Saar border which is Carling in French and in German Karlingen. As the submitter requests authenticity for German, we have changed the locative to the German from.

It appears that the town Carling/Karlingen was not founded until 1714, though part of modern day Carling existed from the 1200s on (http://www.ac-nancy-metz.fr/Pres-etab/CollRabelaisLHopital/college/clg_villes.htm) as a separate village.

Without additional documentation that Karlingen or Karling is a period place name, this must be returned.

Name returned for lack of documentation. Device returned for lack of name.


Rosamond de Crèvecoeur. Kingdom resub. device. Purpure, a stag lodged within a bordure dovetailed argent.

[Name] This name was registered 02/02.

[Device] The submitter's original design, was returned 03/04 for conflict with Tsivia bas Tamara of Amberview, Azure, a doe lodged chained and collared Or carrying in its mouth a slip of laurel vert (reg. 07/86). Changes to the design clear this conflict.

This is clear of Deirdre O'Siodhachain, Gules, a stag courant within a bordure embattled argent (registered 11/89), with a CD for differences to the field change and another CD for the posture of the stag. It is also clear of Alric of Ashfield, Sable, a stag trippant within a bordure embattled argent (registered 01/96), by the same count as above.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Tour Rouge, Canton de la

Fína Fhind ingen Chonaill. New name.

[Name] Submitted as Fina Find inigena Conall. The submitter is interested in a feminine name authentic for "6th century Irish". She will allow all changes; and if the name must be changed she cares most about the language culture and meaning (Fina the fair daughter of Conall).

All of the documentation is from Tangwystyl's Feminine Names from the Index to O'Brien's "Corpus Genealogiarum Hiberniae" (http://sca.org/heraldry/laurel/irish-obrien.html). This source is for 12th c. names, not 6th c. Fína is listed as a given name. F.ind is listed as byname; standard SCA transliteration is Fhind. inigena appears to be an error for ingen, "daughter of".

Conall is not found in the cited documentation; however, it is found in Tangwystyl's "100 Most Popular Men's Names in Early Medieval Ireland" (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/irish100.html). The genitive form is Conaill, which becomes Chonaill when lenited (as required by Gaelic grammar).

Name approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel.


Rodagnas maqqas Vergoso. New name.

[Name] Submitted as Rōdān maqqas Fergus. The submitter is interested in a masculine name authentic for "6th century Irish". He will allow all changes and if the name must be change he cares most about the language/culture and the meaning (Rōdān son of Fergus). There is an additional note, "would like to have same time and culture as Fina Fina ingena Conall" (Fína Fhind ingen Chonaill, submitted above).

All of the documentation is from Tangwystyl's "Some Masculine Ogham Names" (http://sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/ogham/ogham.html). Ródán is the Old Irish from of Rodagnas. maqqas is the Ogham form for "son of". Fergus is the old Irish form of Vergosus; the Ogham genitive is form is Vergoso. The submitter was contacted during the meeting and requested the earlier form of the name, Rodagnas maqqas Vergoso.

Name approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel.


Wintermist, Shire of

Cormac Mór. New alternate name. Noe Noe.

[Name] The submitter's primary name was registered 02/03. The submitter desires a masculine name. He will accept all changes and if changes must be made, he cares most about the sound, "no, no".

Submitter documents the given name from OCM (p.146), which lists a St. Noe of Finglas.

Both names are found in Reaney & Wilson (s.n. Noe, p. 325). The use as a given name is dated to 1185 (Thomas filius Noe), but the use as a surname is undated. The name appears to be an English variant of Noah.

We are not sure that these names have the sound the submitter hopes they do. All alternate spellings listed in R&W suggest that the name should be pronounced as "No-eye" or "No-ee".

Name approved and forward to Laurel.


OP Notes

Caillian O'Neill - Her previous submission was under the name Caillin Liadhain O'Neill.

The Altavian award Ars Alta is to be changed to Argent Fret for all past and future recipients.


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