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Minutes of the March 20, 2005 meeting

[Note: These submissions appear on the Aug 05 LoAR. Muirenn ingen meic Martain's device on the Oct 05 LoAR.]

Notes and Announcements

Meeting commenced at 11:00AM.

In attendance were: Jeanne Marie Crescent, Lachlan Dolphin, Illuminada Silver Trumpet, Su Battlement, Selene Aurum, Vivienne de Lampérière, Grimr inn harfagri, Cormac Bellows, Kean Trident, Bruce Oak Leaf, Jared Alexandre Blaydeaux, Catherine de Winter, Hrorek Chevron, Balthazar Seraph, and Rotheric Kynith

The schedule for the rest of the year is: April 24th, May 8th (changed to avoid conflict with Altavia Anniversary), June 26th (changed to avoid mundane conflict), July 10th, August 7th, September 11th (Sept. Crown name/armory submissions due), October 2nd, November 6th, and December 4th.

The September and October LoARs were read.

Approved submissions will be forwarded to Laurel on the April 27, 2005 Letter of Intent


Angels, Barony of the

Mirosława z Gosprzydowa. New device. Azure, a lily of the valley plant Or blossomed argent between flaunches Or.

[Name] Her name appeared on the 08/15/04 Letter of Intent.

[Armory] Note: While not exactly documenting the use of this primary charge, the submitter did supply some commentary from a previous, similar submission from Northshield:

Clare Agatha MacLeod. Device change. Per pale sable and argent, a lily of the valley plant counterchanged.

The lily of the valley plant is too tall and thin to be counterchanged along its long axis. The slip, in particular, loses its identifiability. Previous precedent has returned similarly wide charges for similar reasons, for example, "[a mace ... counterchanged] There was discussion as to whether the mace was wide enough to be counterchanged along its long axis. Previous cases have decided that winged swords are not, and that double-bitted axes and comets are. The issue is identifiability such counterchanging was banned precisely because the charge became unidentifiable. After examining the emblazon, we decided that the charge was just barely too narrow to be counterchanged like this" (LoAR of August 2000). (0304 R-Northshield).

Miros{l/}awa's emblazon is similar, though not identical to Clare's, but does not suffer from the identifiability problem caused by the counterchanging.

Conflict with June of Morgan's Hall (12/96) Azure, a day lily plant with three blossoms Or. There is a CD for adding the flaunches, but Crescent does not believe that there is a CD between the types of lily plants.

Device returned for conflict.


Vivienne Duval. Kingdom resub. device. Per chevron azure and sable, a chevron cotised between two escallops and a hummingbird close argent.

[Name] The submitter's name was registered 11/03.

[Armory] Her previous submission (Per chevron azure and sable, a chevron between two escallops and a hummingbird close argent) was returned 02/05 for conflict with Wulfgar of East Anglia, Per chevron azure and sable, a chevron between two crosses formy fitched at the foot and a wolf's head erased close argent. Adding the cotises clears this conflict.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Caid, Kingdom of

Caid, Kingdom of. New heraldic title. Compendium Herald

[Name] The kingdom's name was registered 02/75. According to Elizabethan Instrument Makers by Gerarld L'E Turner, Oxford University Press, 2000, the compendium was a pocket scientific instrument that incorporated several instruments and tables into one device: "A typical compendium is composed of all or some of the following parts: (a) equinoctial dial (b) Church calendar (c) Easter perpetual calendar (d) table of latitudes (e) magnetic compass (f) nocturnal (g) tide computer (h) establishment of the port." As a period artifact, it is potentially a valid heraldic charge and therefore may be used as an heraldic title. The registration of Compendium Herald would follow the model of the registered titles Sundial, Sextant, Astrolabe, and Armillary. This title is intended to be a personal heraldic title for Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme.

Title approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Caid, Kingdom of. Transfer of heraldic title (Compendium Herald) to Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme.

[Name] The kingdom's name was registered 02/75. The title is submitted above. Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme was granted the right to a personal heraldic title of 5 June 2005.

Transfer of title approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Calafia, Barony of

Ashraf al-Mansur. Appeal of kingdom return of change of holding name (from 'Abd al-Salam of Saint Artemas)

[Name] The submitter will accept no changes. No other boxes are marked. The holding name 'Abd al-Salam of Saint Artemas was created by Laurel 08/03 when his previous submission, Sharif 'Abd al-Salam ibn Salah, was returned for multiple problems. This submission uses none of the problematic elements of his previous Laurel submission. The following is the text from the September 2004 minutes:

The submitter notes that Ashraf is dated to the 15th century in regard to three different people without providing documentation. We can document it from Da'ud's "Index to Quazi" where he says it's on p.11 entry 23 in Quazi. The submitter notes that al-Mansur is dated to the 8th and 12th centuries. It appears to be both an inherited surName and a descriptive byname meaning "the invincible." Unfortunately, this citation is not provided as well. al-Mansur is found as a masculine cognomen in "Arabic Naming Practices And Period Names List" by Da'ud ibn Auda (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/arabic-naming.html); unfortunately that article has been superceded. al-Mansur does not appear in the updated article, though Mansur appears as a masculine given name.

The submitter has provided additional documentation for Ashraf: a translation of a period journal dating Ashraf as a personal name to 1505. The document mentions two different individuals named Ashraf, the second of which is the son of a secretary. Therefore, the name is not likely to be a title.

The submitter further supplies the following documentation: "SAKALIBA ARE KIPCHAKS, AND BULGARS ARE ONE OF KIPCHAK TRIBES" by Mirfatykh Zakiev from The Tartar Gazette (http://www.peoples.org.ru/tartar/eng_168.html, apparently also at http://tatar.yuldash.com/eng_168.html) mentions, "…the dictionary of Ashraf Ibn Sharaf Al-Muzakkir Al-Farruga, composed in the 1404-1405 [sic] in India…" Since the submitted this documentation, the url has changed to http://tatar.yuldash.com/eng_168.html.

According to "Historical Personalities & Issues", Compiled & Edited by Phillip True, Jr (http://www.africawithin.com/hpi/hp12.htm) Yakub al-Mansur was a 12th C Moorish ruler in Spain. The name translates either as "the victorious" or "the invincible." Abbasids (750-1517) (http://www.princeton.edu/~batke/itl/denise/abbasids.htm) Speaks of an Abbasid ruler, al-Mansur who lived 754-775).

Webster's Biographical lists several al-Mansurs on p. 965, header Mansur, al-, including abu-Ja'far 'Abdullah al-Mansur (712?-775), abu-Yusuf Ya'qub al-Mansur (d.1199), etc.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel


Christel Leake. New device. Azure, two bears rampant addorsed and a bordure dovetailed argent.

[Name] The submitter's name appears on Caid's LoI of 28 March 05.

[Armory] This conflicts with Fferyl ap Llywelyn (11/92), Azure, two bears rampant addorsed within a bordure embattled argent. There are no countable CDs between these two armories, since dovetailed and embattled are considered negligibly different.

Device returned for conflict.


Duncan Rose. New name and device. Azure, two swords in saltire between four mullets of four points argent.

[Name] Submitted as Duncan MacRose. The submitter is interested in a masculine name authentic for "Scottish". He will accept no changes.

Duncan is a header spelling in Black, p.228, a surname derived from a given name: e.g., Dunecan appears as a charter witness in 1240-49. The spelling Duncan is found in the patronymic John Duncanson, 1367.

The submitter originally submitted MacRose. This construction doesn't meet with his desire for authenticity: Black, p.699, gives Rose as a surname derived from a toponymic de Roys. It therefore wouldn't be used in a patronymic form. (We did find English examples of Rose as a woman's given name used in matronymics, e.g. Thomas filius Rose 1273, but the submitter requested authenticity for Scotland.) After a telephone consultation, the submitter allowed us to change the byname to Rose. William Rose was a charter witness in Inverness, c.1360 (Black 699).

Name as approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel. Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Erdenitei Badm-a-Delgere. Kingdom resub. name and kingdom resub. device. Or, a demon's head cabossed within an annulet of lotus leaves vert.

[Name] The submitter desires a Mongolian name, though does not request authenticity. No other boxes are marked.

The submitter's previous name, Erdenitei Badm-a Delgere was returned by Crescent 10/04 for lack of documentation of the construction and lack of documentation for three-element Mongol names.

All elements are found in Mongolian-English Dictionary by Ferdinand D. Lessing. Erdenitei is glossed as "Precious, valuable" on p.320.

ERDENITEI / ЭРДЭНЭТЭЙ
[ = erdenity] adj. Precious, valuable.

Badm-a is glossed as "Lotus, water lily," on p. 66.

BADM-A / БАДМА(А)
[s. padma, T. pad ma] n. Lotus, water lily (Nelumbium speciosum).
-- ceceg. Lotus flower.
Ceceg yn --. Petals of a flower.

Delgere is is found on p.249.

DELGERE- / ДЭЛГЭРЭХ
v.i. Tu unfold, grow, increase, expand, spread, become extensive; to develop; to bloom, blossom.

According to "On the Documentation and Construction of Period Mongolian Names" by Baras-aghur Naran (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/mongol.html), Mongolian names were typically descriptive and commonly contained animal names and adjectives describing auspicious attributes.

The submitter believes this is a well-constructed, two-element name. "Badm-a-Delgere" is intended as a single element meaning "lotus blossom". This is similar to constructions found in Mongolian-English Dictionary. In the listing for Badm-a, the author notes "--ceceg. Lotus flower." We take this to mean that "Badm-a-ceceg" would mean "Lotus Flower." Following that logic, the listing for Ceceg (p.168) includes the following:

CECEG / ЦЭЦЭГ
[ = cicig, seceg ] n. a) Flower.
-- bykyi urγumal. Flowering plants.
-- cecegleky. The flower blooms.
-- delgereky. A flower opens, flowers blossom.
-- yn delbe. Petal of a flower.
-- yn keltes. Petal of a flower.
-- yn sim-e. Nectar of flowers.
(and so on…)

It is unclear to us the difference between "Badm-a-Delgere" (Lotus blossom(?)) and "Badm-a-Delgereky" (Lotus flowers blossom). However, the submitter contacted Dr. Chris Atwood, professor of Mongolian Linguistics and Board member of the Mongolian Society. Apparently, he felt this was an appropriate Mongolian name for the SCA timeline. While not useful as documentation, it makes us willing to give the submitter the benefit of the doubt and forward the name without changes. We hope that the College of Arms can help solidify the submitter's documentation.

[Device] The submitter provides documentation from The Encyclopedia of Tibetan Symbols and Motifs by Robert Beer for a Mongolian demon called "Kirtimukha, the face of glory" (unknown page). The submitter's emblazon does not perfectly match the drawings in the documentation. We do not believe the documentation can be used to support a defining instance, so we are not including it in the packet to Laurel. Thankfully, the emblazon is recognizable as a demon's head cabossed, and the submitter accepts this description as well.

Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Gamel of Mottrum - Laurel resub. device. Per bend sinister gules and sable, a bat-winged lion and on a chief wavy argent a warhammer fesswise sable.

[Name] His name was corrected to Gamel of Mottrum 07/04.

[Armory] His previous submission was returned by Laurel 09/04 with the comment:

Depending on how we view its primary charge, this armory must be returned for either unreproducibility or conflict.

The term gamelyon occurs only once in armory, as noted in Dennys' Heraldic Imagination:

This odd creature makes but one appearance in armory and was evidently conjured up in the mind of Sir William Dethick, Garter King of Arms, who granted to Thomas Gardner of South Brent in Somerset, in July 1557, the following arms: Quarterly gules and azure on a Bend cotised or between two 'Gamelyons rampant and Volant supporting in their forefoote a Ring or with a Garnett proper' or a Lion's head caboshed of the first with a buckle in his mouth silver between two Fleur de Lys sable. In the Queen's College version the beasts are depicted in trick with lion's body, legs, feet, and tail, indeterminate head with slightly turned up snout, and Dragon's wings. In two College of Arms manuscripts they are depicted like Dragons rampant, while another depicts them like Griffins segreant. Clearly Sir William Dethick had his contemporaries guessing; but as he was considered the most skilful herald of his day, and a member of the original Society of Antiquaries, it is likely that he had some reason for creating this creature.

The depictions described in Dennys are extremely variable and do not help in working out what this charge is supposed to LOOK like. The drawing does not match its text description and is redrawn from a secondary-source redrawing off the original scroll -- which supposedly is not available for perusal, or at least wasn't back then. If we follow the submitter's stated desire to use a gamelyon as the blazon term, the armory thus violates RfS VII.7.a which states: "Elements must be recognizable solely from their appearance" and RfS VII.7.b which states in part: "Elements must be reconstructible in a recognizable form from a competent blazon.... Elements that cannot be described in such a way that the depiction of the armory will remain consistent may not be used, even if they are identifiable design motifs that were used before 1600." For these reasons the gamelyon is not an acceptable charge in SCA armory.

It was suggested in commentary that, given the specific drawing of the charge, we could reblazon it as a bat-winged lion. If we treat the charge as a winged feline, however, the armory conflicts with the Barony of Windmaster's Hill (badge for the Order of the Tempest): Gules, a winged domestic cat salient to sinister and maintaining a sword palewise argent. There is one CD for the field, but nothing for the maintained sword. As for type of the primary charge, the following precedent applies:

[a winged serpent vs a bat-winged tree python] The change to the type of wings is too slight to count for the necessary second [CD]. [i.e. there is not a significant difference between a bird-winged and a bat-winged creature.] (Onuphrius Dru Overende, 1/95 p. 14)

As there is no CD for type of wings only between a bat-winged creature and a bird-winged creature of the same base type, there is no CD between Gamel's bat-winged cat and the registered bird-winged cat. This leavs just a single CD for the field, making it a conflict.

He has redrawn the monster as an unarguable bat-winged lion, and added a charged chief to clear the conflict. The artist is advised to draw the line of division to properly intersect the bottom corner of the chief.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Kieran le Dragoner. New device change. Vert, a Latin cross argent and a bordure embattled Or.

[Name] The submitter's name was registered 01/00.

[Armory] If this device is registered, the submitter wishes to release his old one, Vert, a chevron disjointed between three shamrocks Or (registered 03/02).

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel


Lara Chery. New badge. Gules, a lozenge Or voided vert within and conjoined to an annulet argent.

[Name] The submitter's name was registered 02/03.

[Badge] The submitter intends this to be an annulet, not an orle, as she will always display it as a circle. This would be clearer on a square badge form.

Badge approved and forwarded to Laurel


Lisabetta Gianni. New name.

[Name] Submitted as Lísabetta Giánní. The submitter is interested in a feminine name. The submitter has marked only the minor changes box; this has been interpreted as permitting no changes. If the name must be changed she cares most about the language/culture (Italian).

Lisabetta is in de Felice Nomi (s.n. Elisabétta, p.141-142). On p.142, the name is shown at the ending of the entry. It is not dated, but is described as a common diminutive of Elisabetta used throughout Italy. Lisabetta is also found in "Italian Renaissance Women's Names" by Rhian Lyth of Blackmoor Vale (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/italian.html).

Gianni is in de Felice Cognomi p.136 (s.n Giànni). It is not dated, but the text describes it as a common early Italian surname. Gianni appears 169 times as a surname in the Tre Maggori (http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/tratte/doc/SURNAM1.html) [Reference: Florentine Renaissance Resources, Online Tratte of Office Holders, 1282-1532. Machine readable data file.  Edited by avid Herlihy, R. Burr Litchfield, Anthony Molho, and Roberto Barducci. (Florentine Renaissance Resources/STG: Brown University, Providence, R. I., 2002.)].

The accent marks in de Felice are for pronunciation only. The submitter was contacted during the meeting and gave permission to remove the accents from the submitted version.

Name approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel


Sorcha Maol Iosa. New name and device. Per fess engrailed azure and vert, a sun issuant from the line of division Or and in chief a bar argent.

[Name] Submitted as Sorcha Maoliosa "of" Inish Ealga. The submitter is interested in a feminine name authentic for "Irish" language/culture. The submitter will accept any changes, and if the name must be changed she cares most about the meaning (Sorcha: radiant light; Maoliosa: follower of Jesus; Inish Ealga: Noble Isle).

Sorcha is in OC&M, p.167. "A relatively common name in medieval Ireland." It is listed as meaning "bright, radiant".

Maol Iosa is listed in OC&M p. 129 as a masculine given name meaning "devotee of Jesus." It is the spelling after the colon, the first header spelling being Mael Isu. This first spelling is dated to the 10th and 11th centuries; the second spelling, which is different from the submitted spelling, is undated. The I in Iosa has an acute accent, but accents can be dropped as long as they are omitted consistently. We are unsure what, if any changes, are required to make this a literal byname for a woman.

No documentation was provided and none could be found for Inish Ealga. We are therefore dropping it.

[Device] The sun's rays should be attached, and alternating straight and wavy. The bar should not overlap the sun and should be narrower. The device is also non-period style, and is being returned for this reason. The low contrast per fess engrailed division is one step from period practice. We recommend to the submitter that she redraw the sun and make the bar a chief.

Name approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel. Device is returned for non-period style.


Darach, Shire of

Bruce Draconarius of Mistholme. Acceptance of heraldic title Compendium Herald.

[Name] The submitter's personal name was registered Oct 81. He was granted the right to his own heraldic title on 5 June 2004. The heraldic title is being submitted through Caid, and transferred to the individual.

Acceptance of transfer of title approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Darach, Shire of. Release of duplicate device. Azure, a pall argent between a laurel wreath Or and two Black Oak trees eradicated in autumn phase proper. (Quercus Velutina lam.)

[Name] The branch name was registered 02/75.

[Armory] This device was registered to the Shire in 10/81. When the Shire's current device (Argent, on a bend between a tree and an acorn, slipped and leaved to dexter, the leaf embowed sable, a laurel wreath palewise argent) was registered 01/83, the old device was to have been released. It was neither released nor changed to a badge/ancient arms; it is still listed in the A&O as a device registered to Darach. The Shire wishes to release it at this time, retaining their current device.

This action was approved by majority vote at the Shire council meeting of 3 March 2005; a letter signed by the Seneschal and the Herald is appended.

Release approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Darach, Shire of. Release of duplicate order name for Sable Oak of Darach Shire, Order of the.

[Name] The branch name was registered 02/75. This name was registered to the Shire in 06/82. This was evidently done in error, since the correct name of the Order (Sable Oak of Darach, Order of the) had been registered in 04/82. The Shire wishes to release the duplicate name Sable Oak of Darach Shire and retain the name Sable Oak of Darach. The badge for the Order, Argent, in fess an acorn between two oak leaves, all palewise, and a bordure sable is to be retained and associated with the order name Order of the Sable Oak of Darach, which it currently is.

This action was approved by majority vote at the Shire council meeting of 3 March 2005; a letter signed by the Seneschal and Herald is appended.

Release approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Thomas Whitehart. New device. Azure, in pale a harp Or and a hart courant argent.

[Name] The submitter's name was registered 04/97.

[Device] The device conflicts with Ireland (important non-SCA arms), Azure, a harp Or stringed argent. There's a single CD for adding the hart.

Device returned for conflict.


Gallavally, Canton of

Illuminada Eugenia de Guadalupe y Godoy. Appeal of Laurel return of name submission.

[Name] The submitter's current primary name, Islyle le Gannoker de Gavain was registered 02/82. She is interested in a feminine name and will accept no changes. This is an appeal of the return of her alternate name submission in 03/04. At this time, however, she wishes to register this name, Illuminada Eugenia de Guadalupe y Godoy as her primary name and retain Islyle de Gannoker de Gavain as an alternate. Her alternate name submission was returned for lack of documentation for the given name. Laurel writes,

Illuminada and Iluminada are not interchangable (sic) in Spanish, since ll and l are considered separate letters in that language. No documentation was provided for this name spelled with ll. We would change the given name to the documented form Iluminada, but the submitter will not allow any changes. This name must, therefore, be returned.

The submitter cites de Love, p.230, for the form Iluminada. She then cites multiple examples from de Love of Spanish names that alternate between single-L and double-LL: Caliope/Calliope, Calixto/Callistus (p.147), Camilo/Camillus (p.148), Estla/Stella (p.187), Iluminada/Illuminata (p.230), Isabel/Isabela/Isabella (p.233), Sibila/Sibella (p.332), Sibilina/Sibyllina (p.333). The submitter suggests that these spelling variants appear precisely because of the contact and interchange between Spain and Italy, but the fact that she has found multiple examples of the L-LL shift should be enough to show the submitted spelling to be plausible.

Eugenia is found in de Love, p. 189-190 where is states, "Eugenia, femenino de Eugenio; ... 5. Virgen mártir romana del siglo III..." (virgin martyr from the 3rd century).

Guadalupe and Godoy both appear as surnames in "Muster Roll of the Expedition of Fransicso Vasquez de Coronado, February 22, 1540" (www.rootsweb.com/~nmbernal/musterc.htm).

Appeal forwarded to Laurel with the support of the College.


Illuminada Eugenia de Guadalupe y Godoy. New change of device. Sable, a bend engouled of two wolves' heads Or.

[Name] The submitter's current primary name (Islyle le Gannoker de Gavain) was registered 02/82; a name change is included above.

[Armory] The engouled (= 'swallowed') treatment of the bend is a period motif, which seems to be peculiar to the Iberian peninsula. The Livrio da Nobreza, a Portuguese roll of arms c.1557, on folio xi shows the arms of Friere, or Frieres Dandrade: Vert, a bend gules fimbriated Or engouled of two serpents' heads gules. Louda & Maclagan's Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe, table 47, shows the arms of John de Castella, illegitimate son of Pedro I the Cruel of Castile, b.1354, which we would blazon Per bend gules and argent, on a bend engouled of two lions' heads between a castle Or and a lion rampant gules crowned Or, a bendlet vert. Stephen Slater's Complete Book of Heraldry, p.206, shows the arms of Pedro Fernandez de Andrada c.1580, which feature a bend engouled of two dragons' heads.

We feel that engouled is a treatment of the bend, just as engrailed or embattled would be. (Woodward, p.131, puts the bend engoulée in the same class as the crancelin of the arms of Saxony, which is definitely considered a complex treatment.) Engouled is certainly not equivalent to the addition of tertiary charges, since the heads overlie the edges of the bend and alter its outline against the field. This is thus clear of such devices as that of Paul of Bellatrix, Sable, on a bend Or three compass stars palewise gules.

If this is registered, the submitter desires her current device Vert chapé ployé argent, an axe bendwise sinister vert charged on the blade with a mullet Or, a chalice vert banded Or, and a unicorn couchant argent, armed and gorged of a collar Or, to be retained as a badge.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Dun Or, Barony of

Halldórr Þórhallsson. Kingdom resub. Device. Per bend sinister vert and argent, two wheels counterchanged.

[Name] The name was registered 11/03.

[Armory] His previous submission (Vert, a saltire cotised argent) was returned in Kingdom Jan 04 for conflict. This is a complete redesign. This is technically clear of Alanna Margaret Rennaut (03/93), Per bend sinister argent and vert, two Catherine's wheels counterchanged. There's a CD for the tincture of the field and a CD for the tincture of the wheels.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Gyldenholt, Barony of

Cedrych Waryn. New name and device. Quarterly gules and sable, in bend two wyverns erect each maintaining a cross bottony Or.

[Name] The submitter is interested in a masculine name. He allows all changes, and if the name must be changed he cares most about the sound.

Cedrych is found on p. 21 of Heini Gruffudd Enwau i'r Cymry/Welsh Personal Names; it is undated. The 06/94 Cover Letter states:

As for Cedrych, (Gruffudd, 21) refers it to Ceidrych, which '[c]ould be a form of "Caradog" but is the name of a river in Carmarthenshire. (Bartrum, 149) has a Keidyrch, but no Ceidrych.) As a consequence, unless and until new research appears giving better historical support to the name, after the September 1994 Laurel meeting we will no longer register Cedric.

If the submitter is interested in a similar name, Crescent found a single instance of Cedderike ("Willm. the son of Cedderike Sibbit was baptized" on 25 December 1614). This is from the grey period but may be sufficient for registration. [Reference: Ancestry.com. Yorkshire, England: Parish Records [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2005. Original data: Willis, Tomas B. trans. and ed. The Parish Register of Pontefract 1585-1641. Yorkshire: Yorkshire Archaeological Society Parish Register Section, 1958.]

Waryn is found as a byname in "An Index to the 1296 Lay Subsidy Rolls for Rutland, England" by Karen Larsdatter (www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/Rutland/index.htm).

[Armory] We note that the wyverns should be drawn bolder, and their maintained charges more distinct. We checked this for conflict and found none.

Name returned for lack of documentation. Device returned for lack of name.


Lyondemere, Barony of

Anna Larie. New name and device. Vert, a dragon and in base a quill pen fesswise reversed and a bordure Or.

[Name] Submitted as Anna Lorie. The submitter is interested in a feminine name. She allows all changes and if the name must be changed she cares most about the sound.

Anna is found in Withycombe (s.n. Ann, p. 25) where it states "Her granddaughter Anna married Henri I of France (1031-60) and so introduced the name into the West. It occurs first in England about the beginning of the 13th C (1218 is the earliest record), but it was rare until the beginning of the 14th C". Talan Gwynek's "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames" (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/reaneyintro.html) includes "Anna 1199 Punnett; 1501 Strangeway; 1511 Debdale; 1512 Brennan; 1515, 1524 Semple".

Lorie is found in R&W (s.n. Lawrey, p. 273). It is in the header, but undated in this spelling. Larie is dated to 1279. The submitter appears to have misread the documentation, as the forms list Lorie at this date.

The submitter's name is Lori Ann Cole. We believe that reversing the order of the names clear this from Lori Ann, a valid use name for her.

[Armory] The quill pen is too small to be considered a co-primary.

Name approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel. Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Starkhafn, Barony of

Emmeline Dernelove. Kingdom resub. device. Argent, a heart purpure within a Bowen knot crosswise sable.

[Name] The submitter's name appears on Caid's October 28th LoI.

[Armory] Her previous submission, Argent, a heart gules within a Bowen knot crosswise sable, was returned by Crescent 12/04 for conflict with Bordermarch, Barony of, Argent, a heart gules and a sinister tierce raguly sable (10/95). This is a Bowen knot because of the rounded points; a Bowen cross has sharp corners. Blazons that appear to describe this orientation in the Ordinary include:

"…a Bowen knot set crosswise…" (1992)

"…a Bowen knot crosswise…" (1988x3, 1990, 1993, 1994, 1996x4, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2003)

"…a Bowen knot in cross…" (1975, 1976, 1979, 1981, 1987, 1992)

We are unsure of the orientation "a Bowen knot saltirewise" (Rhonwen Alyna Nic an Chrosáin, 08/94) but expect that it is the standard Bowen knot. We have chosen the most common, and most recently used, blazon for this submission.

As noted in December, while technically clear by RfS X.1, we believe there may be a visual conflict according to RfS X.5 with Darcy Graham, Argent, a bowen knot in cross sable (02/81). We ask Wreath to compare the emblazons.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Muirenn ingen meic Martain. Laurel resub. device. Per fess vert and sable, issuant from a vol a hand Or.

[Name] The submitter's name was registered 01/02.

[Armory] Her previous submission, Per fess vert and sable, issuant from a vol argent a sinister hand argent was returned by Laurel 08/03 with the comment:

Conflict with Francois le Féroce, Per chevron vert and argent, in chief two wings addorsed argent. There is one CD for changing the field. The wings "addorsed" are effectively displayed and separated, and are not different from two similar wings conjoined into a vol. The hand in this submission is effectively maintained by the vol and its addition is not worth difference. There is no difference for the location of the wings on the field. The argent wings in Francois' badge may not overlap the argent portion of the field and thus must be placed entirely on the vert portion of the field, in chief. Because the placement of the wings in Francois' armory is forced by the field ("caused by other changes to the design"), it is thus is not worth difference by RfS X.4.g.

As this is the same artwork as originally submitted, the hand is still effectively a maintained charge. Thus this conflicts with Brioc Morcannuc (May 98) Azure, a vol Or. There is one CD for changing the field, but as the hand is maintained, there is no CD for adding it. In addition, this form has been reduced at some point prior to submission and the emblazon is smaller than the minimum registerable size. The submitter is advised to use a standard form in the future.

Device returned for conflict and non-standard form.


OP Notes

Ashraf al-Mansur appears in the OP as 'Abd al-Salam of Saint Artemas.

Illuminada Eugenia de Guadalupe y Godoy appears in the OP as Islyle le Gannoker de Gavain.


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