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Minutes of the 14 DECEMBER 2003 Meeting

[Note: These submissions appear on the Apr 04 LoAR]

Notes and Announcements

The meeting commenced at 11:20am. In attendance were: Jeanne Marie Crescent, Lachlan Dolphin, Su Battlement, Selene Aurum, Bruce Oak Leaf, Kean Trident, Angus Seraph, Eric Flame, Damashi Blue Mountain, Damien Sable Fret, Catherine of Scarborough, Cormac Mor, Sarah Minet, Honour Golden Antelope, Seglinda Moucheture, Johnathan Drake of Skeye.

The next heraldry meetings will be: January 11th, February 8th, March 7th, April 4th, May 23rd, June 13th, and July 11th. Doomsday reports are due no later than Twelfth Night. Please get them in.

The final meeting for the current Laurel team is in March, and therefore the new team will rule on submissions forwarded from this meeting.

Please try to get summaries including source of all documentation emailed to Jeanne Marie prior to each meeting. A reminder to all heralds, S. Gabriel reports and articles do not appear on the no-photocopy list. This means printouts of the reports/articles must accompany the submissions; not including these is grounds for return.

Ensure that new submissions are on the current Caid forms. Laurel will return items found on non-standard forms.

Spring Collegium will be in Lyondemere this year. Su is taking class proposals for Fall Collegium and is seeking a deputy for her position as regent of the heraldry track.

Approved submissions will be forwarded to Laurel on the December 30, 2003 Letter of Intent


Altavia, Barony of

Ann the Bookmaker - New Name.

The submitter is interested in a feminine name. She will accept minor but major changes, and if the name must be changed she cares most about the meaning, "Ann the maker of books".

Fransson, Middle English Surames of Occupation has the name "Bokmakere" dated to 1296. In the THE COMPACT OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY "bookemaking" is found as a gerund form of the same verb in 1589. Exact citations, both from the OED:

"book" cf. Book, p. 392-294, definitions 4c [1597, a Shakespeare quote from 2 Henry IV],
"bookemaking" cf. book-making, p. 398, definition 2.

While we could not find this spelling dated to period, we found shoemaker in R&W (s.n. Shoemake, Shoemaker, Schoemaker, p. 407) which has the spelling S(c)homaker dated to 1365. We believe this to suggest that the submitted spelling is also reasonable.

Ann is found in Withycombe (p. 25-26). "It occurs first in England about the beginning of the 13th C (1218 is the earliest record), but it was rare until the beginning of the 14th C, when it began to come into more common use...The spellings <Ann> and <Anne> were used indifferently until recent times when spellings became more rigid."

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Giovanni Bizzarro - New Name.

The submitter is interested in a masculine name. No other boxes are checked.

Giovanni is found in de Felice Nomi, p. 192 under "Giovanni". San Giovanni Damasceno was a doctor of the church in the eighth century ("San Giovanni Damasceno dottore della Chiesa dell'VIII secolo").

Bizzarro is found in de Felice Cognomi, p. 81 under Bizzarri where it is undated.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Calafia, Barony of

Aelesia le Drake - New Name.

The submitter is interested in a feminine name authentic for 13th century English, though she has not checked the box to make it authentic. She will accept minor but not major changes, and if the name must be changed, she cares most about sound.

Aelesia is a given name in Withycombe (s.n. Alice, pp.15-16), with this spelling dated 1219-20.

le Drake is in Reaney & Wilson (s.n. Drake, p.141), with Wimund le Drake 1205. The form seemed to have it spelled Le Drake, but we have made the article lowercase to match the documentation.

Name approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel.


Disa blat{o,}nn - Laurel Resub. Device:
Sable, a mullet of eight points azure fimbriated argent.

Her name was registered August 2003. Her previous submission, Quarterly azure and sable, on a mullet of eight points argent a harp sable, was returned by Laurel August 2003 for conflict. This is a substantial redesign.

We are unsure if a mullet of eight points is simple enough to fimbriate. Da'ud Laurel ruled "Most of the commenters felt that a mullet of eight points was too complex a charge to void or fimbriate." [The device was returned for this reason] (LoAR 4/92 p.21)." However, Bruce Laurel ruled "By this guideline, mullets, hearts and triangles are all simple enough to be voided or fimbriated. ... (15 January, 1992 Cover Letter (November, 1992 LoAR), pp. 2-3)". Suns, which conflict with mullets of eight points, are too complex to fimbriate (as noted in several rulings later than Master's Bruce's).

In any case it is a moot point as the device conflicts with Selivia de l'Estoile (05/84), Gyronny of six purpure and argent, a mullet of six points azure, with a CD for changes to the field but nothing for the fimbriation or for the difference between a mullet of six points and one of eight points. It also conflicts with Alistair Kirk (11/83), Quarterly ermine and Or, a compass-star azure, with a CD for changes to the field but nothing for the fimbriation or for the difference between a mullet of eight points and a compass star.

Device returned for conflict.


Eleanora di Gerardi - New Name.

The submitter is interested in a feminine name authentic for 15th century Italian. She will accept any changes, and if the name must be changed she cares most about the meaning "Eleanora daughter of Gerald".

Eleanora is from de Felice's Nomi, p.139 as the header spelling and is dated to the 12th century: "...un nome insorto in Eropa nel tardo Medio Evo, prima, nel XII selcolo, in Provenza e in Francia..."

Submitted as di Gerardo from de Felice's Nomi, p.184 as the header spelling. However we believe this must be put in the genitive as is indicated by numerous examples in de Felice's Cognomi (s.n. Gherardi, p.134-135). We are changing it to the closest undated example therein, di Gerardi.

Name approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel.


Emma Doventhuayte - Kingdom Resub. Name and Device:
Per bend indented azure and argent, a bend dancetty sable between a dove volant argent and a rose purpure.

The submitter is interested in a feminine name authentic for "14th C Anglo Saxon," (which is a good trick). She will accept all changes, and if the name must be changed, she cares most about the language/culture. Her previous submissions, Laurel Douthwaite and Per bend indented azure and argent, a dove volant argent and a rose purpure, were returned at Kingdom in September 03, the name for lack of documentation, the device for redraw and lack of name. She has fixed the offset line of division, which was the previous cause of complaint.

Emma is in Reaney & Wilson (s.n. Allmark, p. 8), with Emma Halmark dated 1324.

Doventhuayte is in Reaney & Wilson (s.n. Douthwaite, p. 140), with John de Doventhuayte dated 1332. We believe the preposition was frequently omitted in toponymic bynames of this form.

The bird in chief is a dove by virtue of the olive branch it holds in its beak. The submitter will be instructed to feed the bend and starve the dove.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel. Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Kedyrth filia Gerald - New Device:
Sable, an hourglass bendwise argent.

Strangely, there are no name forms and the name does not appear to be registered. She paid $20 as if submitting both.

Device pended for lack of a name.


Lara Chery - New Badge:
(Fieldless) On a flame gules, a rose argent barbed vert.

Her name was registered in February 2003. This conflicts with Grimn the Hele-Bourne, Sable upon a flame gules fimbriated Or, a skull argent (Device, 10/86). There is neither a CD for removing the fimbriation, nor for changing the type only of tertiary on a complex charge.

Badge returned for conflict.


Liudmila Vladimirova doch' - Laurel Resub. Device:
Per pale Or and gules, a sun in splendour counterchanged.

Her name was registered in 05/00. This design was returned by Laurel 09/02 for conflict with Ajax Thermopylokles, Per pale Or and gules, a medeusa's head counterchanged per RfS X.5. The submitter has included a letter of permission to conflict.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Tamlin Lochmaben - New Device:
Per fess sable and argent, a drakkar Or and a thistle purpure leaved vert.

His name was registered March 2002.

The thistle is not in fact proper. The entire flower is purpure with vert slip and leaves.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Uther the Small - New Device:
Vert, a bull's head caboshed argent armed Or and on a chief enarched argent fimbriated sable three crosses patonce fitched vert.

His name was registered February 2003. Unfortunately, single-sided ordinaries may not be fimbriated. If he removes the fimbriation, we will reconsider it. Note that we did not check this for conflict. We also gently suggest making the chief straight, not enarched, and drawing the crosses larger.

Device returned for non-period style.


Poll na Gainmhe, Canton of (Calafia)

Deirdre Oilithreach - New Name.

The submitter is interested in a feminine name authentic for "Irish" but did not check the box to make it authentic. She will accept all changes, and if the name must be changed, she cares most about the language/culture and the meaning "Pilgrim - person from another land".

Deirdre is the submitter's legal given name, but no proof of this was provided. (NOTE: A photocopy of the driver's license is expected.) It is also SCA-compatible (q.v. Deirdre inghean Dhomhnaill mhic Maidecc, March 2000, A-Caid).

Oilithreach is the modern Irish for pilgrim and is the form suggested by Jaelle Laurel in another registration:

Please tell the submitter that while Fionndaire Fearcuairt is registerable, it may not mean what he wants. Although 'pilgrim' is one possible meaning of fearcuairt, it doesn't seem to be the primary sense. Dwelly glosses it 'a sojourner, visitor, tourist'. It's a compound of fear 'man' and cuairt 'circle, circuit, cycle, zone, circumference; circulation; round; expedition, excursion, tour, journey, walk, pilgrimage; visit, sojourning' (and other senses of little interest here). However, the DIL has an early Irish word that clearly does mean 'pilgrim': it appears as an Irish gloss on the medieval Latin romipeta `pilgrim to Rome'. The word is ailithrech or oilithrech, in modern Irish oilithreach. If that's really the desired meaning, we suggest Fionndaire Oilithreach. [Fionndaire Fearcuairt, 04/97, A-Drachenwald]

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Summergate, Canton of (Calafia)

Anne du Beausoleil - Laurel Resub. Device:
Azure, a sun and on a chief Or three water pitchers azure.

Her name appears on Caid's May 28th LoI. Her previous submission, Per pale azure and Or, a sun counterchanged, was withdrawn in June 2003 because an identical device was registered to someone else. This is a substantial redesign.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Daibhead mac Suaibhseach ui Neill - Kingdom Resub. Name and Device:
Vert, a hand appaumy within two lizards in annulo argent.

His previous name submission, David ua Naill, was returned by Crescent for conflict with his mundane name in May 2003. The submitter is interested in a masculine name. He will accept any changes, and if the name must be changed, he cares most about the language, Irish (though he has also written "David 'the Peaceful' O'Neal" nearby).

Daibhead is in OC&M, p70, header Dauid. It is the spelling after the colon in the header.

The second element was submitted as an Suaimhneach, which the submitter claims to mean "the peaceful". The attached documentation is an isolated print of a single line from the website http://www.eirefirst.com/lesreading6.htm. Upon examination, the site teaches Irish Gaelic, and this page is a short story by a 20th century author. It is partially translated, which is where the attached quote was obtained. There is no indication that the term is period, and in the story does not appear to be used as part of a name.

The submitter was contacted during the meeting and agrees to change the descriptive element to a matronymic, mac Suaibhseach. Suaibhseach is found in OC&M, p.167, after the colon. It is a feminine name glossed as "gracious, kindly" and was the name of the mother of Máel Rubba, abbot of Bangor and founder of Aporcrossan.

The final element was submitted as Ui Neill, which is found in OC&M (s.n. Niall, p.145) who state, "The name was made famous by Niall Naígiallach, ancester of the Uí Néill. Among other famous bearers of this name were the high-kings Niall Frassach (778), Niall Caille (846), Niall Glu/ndub (919)". Accents should be used (or not) consistly in Gaelic. As the submitter includes no accents, we have not added the accent to the patronymic. We have, however corrected the capitalization to ui Neill.

Name approved as changed and forwarded to Laurel. Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Darach, Shire of

Ismay of Giggleswick - New Badge:
(Fieldless) A glove puppet argent, vested vair, collared and wearing a fool's cap gules.

Her name was registered July 1999. Puppets are period heraldic charges, found in the arms of Philipp der Muschrat c.1400. (Neubecker's "Heraldry: Sources, Symbols and Meanings", pp.122, 279.) The term glove puppet was used in the blazon of the device of Linnet Kestrel (registered 12/81).

Badge approved and forwarded to Laurel.


William Hethfeld - Kingdom Resub. Device:
Per pale sable and vert, an armored wolf statant contourny ululant within a bordure embattled argent.

His name appears on Caid's May 28th LoI. The previous device, Sable, an armored wolf statant contourny ululant, was returned by Crescent in May 2003 for multiple conflicts. The addition of the bordure removes the conflicts.

We note the device of Henry of Maldon (reg. Feb 1992): Per pale sable and vert, a wolf passant Or within a bordure embattled argent. Though similar in concept, the two are clear of conflict, with one CD for the tincture of the wolf and 1 CD for turning it to sinister.

The submitter will be told to draw the bordure wider.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Gallavally, Canton of (Dreiburgen)

Malcom Ross - New Name and Device:
Per pale sable and Or, a cross crosslet fitchy and in chief two lions and a bordure counterchanged.

The submitter is interested in a masculine name. He will accept all changes, and if the name must be changed he cares most about the sound.

Malcolm is in Black (s.n. Malcolm, p. 576) dated to 1204.

Ross is in Black (s.n. Ross, p. 700), which lists William Ross, 1486.

Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Rónán de Bhál - New Name and Device:
Or, a dragon's head erased gules between three pairs of arrows inverted in saltire sable between flaunches gules.

The submitter is interested in a masculine name authentic for Irish language/culture. He will accept minor but not major changes, and if the name must be changed he cares most about the language/culture.

Rónán is found in "100 Most Popular Men's Names in Early Medieval Ireland" by Heather Rose Jones at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/irish100.html. Submitted as Ronan de Bhál, Gaelic names must use accents consistently, so we've added them to the given name.

de Bhál is found in MacLysaght, p. 295 with the Norman de Valle gaelicized as de Bhál. Woulfe's Irish Names and Surnames, p.243, cites de Bál as the gaelicized form of du Val, de Val, de Vale, etc. The Norman form "dates back at least to the 13th Century, and is found in many parts of Ireland."

Name approved (with accents added) and forwarded to Laurel. Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Steinsee, Canton of (Dreiburgen)

Viridovix Aeduii - New device:
Gules, a fess lozengy sable and argent between a wheel and two sets of torcs braced, one and two, and two sets of torcs braced and a wheel, two and one, Or.

The name was on the Caid LoI of 21 Nov 2003. While we are unhappy with the style, we suspect it's registerable. However, the wheels and torcs are inherently "open" charges, with lots of space in them, and therefore as drawn are a bit too small. If this is redrawn with the charges bolder (and with the torcs' openings drawn opposite one another rather than at odd angles), it should be acceptable.

Device returned for redraw.


Dun Or, Barony of

Dun Or, Barony of - New change of heraldic title to Popinjay Pursuivant.

The Barony's name was registered 04/95. Their current heraldic title is Golden Antelope. The title was registered as Golden Antelope Herald to the Kingdom of Caid in Nov 2000. The change to Golden Antelope Pursuivant and transfer to the Barony appear on Caid's August 25th (Administrative) LoI. A letter from the Baronial officers supporting this change is included.

Popinjay is a period heraldic charge, found in Parker, p.442; the Pictorial Dictionary notes that the charge dates back to at least 1245. Thus this title follows the pattern <heraldic charge> Pursuivant. Caid's policy is to register heraldic titles to their territories, not the Kingdom, and to register them as "pursuivant" regardless of the rank of the bearer.

If this is registered, the Barony's current heraldic title Golden Antelope Pursuivant is to be released.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Michael Duncan of Hadley - New Name.

The submitter is interested in a masculine name. He will accept minor but not major changes, and if the name must be changed, he cares most about the sound.

Michael is a given name found in Withycombe (s.n. Michael, p.218), with this spelling dated to 1346. It's also found in Black (s.n. Michael, p.598), with a Michael as abbot of Cambuskenneth in 1307.

Duncan is a surname found in Black, p.228, as the header spelling; Black cites John Dunkan in 1367. Black also cites Gillemichel McDuncan c.1184 (s.n. Macduncan, p.488).

Hadley is a header in Reaney & Wilson, p.211, and a header in Bardsley, p.347, in both cases originating as a toponymic. From R&W: Warin de Hadlai, 1212; John Hadley, 1390. From Bardsley: Robertus de Hadleya, John de Hadlee, 1273. Ekwall, p.210, cites Hadley 1248 (s.n. Hadleigh, p.210) and Haddeley 1327 (s.n. Hadley, p.210).

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Gyldenholt, Barony of

Caterucia Bice da Ghiacceto - New Name.

The submitter is interested in a feminine name. She will accept minor but not major changes, and if the name must be changed she cares most about the language/culture (presumably Italian). A reminder to all heralds, S. Gabriel reports and articles do not appear on the no-photocopy list. This means printouts of the reports/articles must accompany the submissions, which they did not in this case. This is grounds for return.

Caterucia is found as a feminine name in "Fourteenth Century Venetian Personal Names" by Arval Benicoeur and Talan Gwynek (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/venice14/venice14given.html).

The submitter cites http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/cataso/#alpha for Bice but that page apparently no linger exists. Bice is found in "Italian Renaissance Women's Names" by Rhian Lyth of Blackmoor Vale (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/italian.html).

da Ghiacceto is found at http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/tratte/doc/n-names.html, in the 5th paragraph. The page is notes on name which appear in "Online Tratte of Office Holders 1282-1532". According to the surname list, da Ghiacceto appears 304 times in the Tratte.

Name approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Elizabeth Sealeaf - New Name and Device:
Argent, a pegasus segreant contourny sable and in chief a cloud purpure.

The submitter is interested in a feminine name and will accept minor but not major changes. If changes must be made, she cares most about the meaning: "for sealeaf it means 'sea-love' which I interpret as 'love of the sea'".

Elizabeth is dated to 1205 in Withycombe (s.n. Elizabeth, p. 100).

Sealeaf is a header in Reaney & Wilson, p.397, but no dated forms of the surname are given. It seems to derive from a woman's name, S{ae-}lufu, but that form would evolve to a modern form Sealove. R&W hypothesize an alternate spelling S{ae-}l{e-}ofu based on examples in the Domesday Book, and that spelling would evolve into Sealeaf. Since we have in the past been tolerant of spellings used in headers, we are sending this on to Laurel.

The submitter is advised to allow space between the wings and the cloud.

Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Kima de Royl - New Name.

The submitter does not care about the gender of the name. She will allow all changes.

The submitter claims that Kima is found in Reany & Wilson (p. 262) where it is dated to 1221. We could not find this spelling, however to confirm this documentation.

de Royl is found in Reaney & Wilson (s.n. Royal, o. 385) where it is dated to 1230.

This is returned for presumption, "de Royl" sounds like a claim to be of the royal family.

Name returned for presumption.


Marcellus Drachenklaue - Administrative action - exhange of primary and alternate names.

Marcel Longueville was registered 10/1995. Marcellus Drachenklaue was registered as an alternate name 01/2003. He wishes to make Marcellus Drachenklaue his primary name and Marcel Longueville his alternate name.

Approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Rhieinwen Cyfarwydd ferch Angharad - New Badge:
(Fieldless) On a heart argent an increscent purpure.

Her name was registered April 1996. The badge is on a non-standard form, which can be grounds for return. In this case it appears close enough to send forward, though Crescent may not do so in the future. All heralds are asked to make sure that they use standard Caidan forms for submissions.

While Bruce Laurel ruled "The heraldic heart is considered a heart, not a medium for armorial display (in the way an inescutcheon would be). [Thus it can bear a tertiary when it is the sole primary charge in a fieldless badge] (Fridrich Eisenhart, July, 1992, pg. 4)", that has since been overturned. The latest precedent is:

[(Fieldless) A heart per fess embattled azure and argent] Since a heart is a standard shape for heraldic display, for purposes of conflict this is considered to be (Fieldless) Per fess embattled azure and argent, and so conflicts with Grey Gargoyles, College of the Per fess embattled azure and argent, masoned azure, with one CD for changing the tincture of half the field. [Sigismund Jaeger, R-Drachenwald, 02/99].

Thus this is the equivalent of Argent, an increscent purpure and conflicts with Perronnelle Charrette de La Tour du Pin's device (07/96), Or, an increscent purpure; her badge (06/96), (Fieldless) An increscent purpure fimbriated Or and with her other badge (05/96), (Fieldless) An increscent purpure.

There was some question as to whether or not X.4.j.ii would apply to this badge. The latest precedents indicate that a heart is simple enough to fimbriate and thus changing the type only of the tertiary is sufficient for a CD. For this reason, this badge does not conflict with Cerelia de Lacy of Sherborne (12/86), Purpure, on a heart argent a cross moline purpure. There would be a CD for fieldlessness, and a second for changing the type only of tertiary.

Badge returned for conflict.


Heatherwyne, Shire of

Ciar ingen Dáire - New Device:
Gules, on a bend sable fimbriated three oak leaves argent.

Her name was registered July 2003.

This conflicts with the flag of Trinidad/Tobago (important SCA armory): Gules, a bend sable fimbriated argent. There's a single CD for the addition of the tertiary charges. When this is resubmitted, the submitter should be instructed to draw the leaves to follow the line of the bend (or else honestly palewise).

When redesigning, she should be aware of other armories with sable bends on gules. For example, Phelan Cathaoir-Mor, Gules, a bend sable fimbriated argent, overall a phoenix Or; or William de Corbie, Gules, a bend sable fimbriated between two crosses crosslet fitchy argent.

Device returned for conflict.


Lyondemere, Barony of

Cassandre Nicole Loustaunau - Kingdom Resub. Badge:
(Fieldless) An ermine tail azure spotted sable.

The submitter withdrew her original submission from October 2003, (Fieldless) An ermine spot azure to avoid the pending conflict with Alienor de Narbonne's identical submission which appeared on the October 27 Letter of Intent from Atlantia. According to precedent, "The ermine spot is considered a single charge, and is acceptable for fieldless badges (Eduard Halidai, July, 1992, pg. 3)". The blazon mimics that of Jade of Starfall, Vert, an ermine tail, spotted of three compass stars argent (Badge, 01/89).

Returned for conflict with Alienor de Narbonne's submission. The dots on an ermine spot do not constitute fully half of the charge, and therefore this does not warrant a CD for change of tincture.

Badge returned for (pending) conflict.


Litoris Longi, Lyceum (Lyondemere)

Cormac Mór - New Device Change:
Per pale Or and argent.

His name was registered February 2003. If this is registered, he wishes to retain his current device (02/03), Sable, an open book argent between three pairs of torches in saltire argent flamed Or, as a badge.

Precedent states:

[Per saltire gules and azure] Conflict with ... Per saltire Or and gules. The only possible rule that could make these clear is RfS X.4.a.ii.b, Complete Change of Tincture (part of the Field-Primary Armory rules); however, that rule states If the fields of two pieces of field-primary armory have no tinctures in common, they are considered completely different and do not conflict, irrespective of any other similarities between them. While each portion of the field has changed tincture, one cannot say that they do not have a tincture in common. [Iohanna Carracci, 11/00, R-Middle].

By the same reasoning, this device conflicts with the badge of Malta (important non-SCA armory): Per pale argent and gules. Since both armories contain argent (even though not in the same portion of the field), this is a conflict.

Device returned for conflict.


Nordwache, Barony of

Miriel Gard of Yale - New Device:
Azure, a cat sejant ermine and on a chief argent a cat s'elongeant sable.

Her name appears on Caid's October 6th LoI. While the sejant cat would certainly benefit from some internal detailing, Crescent believes the rendition is recognizable enough to be forwarded.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Starkhafn, Barony of

Geneviève Ravenswood - New Name and Device:

Gules, in pale three apples within a border Or.

The submitter is interested in a feminine name. She will allow minor but not major changes, and if the name must be changed she cares most about the language/culture (French).

Geneviève is found in "An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris" by Colm Dubh (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/paris.html). It is also found in "Sixteenth Century Norman Names" by Cateline de la Mor (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/cateline/norman16.html). The submitter changed the form to include the accent mark.

Ravenswood is not documented by the submitter. Ravenesthorpe is in R&W (s.n. Ravensthorpe, p. 373), dated to 1294. Hawkwood can be found in the same volume (s.n. Hawkwood, p.222) which includes John de Hawkwod 1351. Given <bird>wood and Raven<topological feature>, we believe Ravenwood (no "s") to be a feasible period construction. We note that Ravenswood has been registered at least 12 times, as recently as April 2000 without comment (q.v. Bethoc of Ravenswood), thus we are forwarding the name as submitted.

Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Katharine de Mirabeau - Kingdom Resub. Device:
Purpure, on a pale sable fimbriated between two Bowen crosses four Bowen crosses Or.

Her name was registered 07/03. Her previous submission, Purpure, on a pale sable fimbriated four Bowen crosses Or, was returned for conflict with Catherine de Montlhéry, Purpure, on a pale sable fimbriated, three feathers bendwise sinister argent by Crescent 05/03. The addition of the secondaries clears this conflict.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Wintermist, Shire of

Coinneach Kyllyr of Kilernan - New Device Change:
Gules, a lion rampant to sinister, brandishing a sword fesswise and a shield, its sinister hindpaw resting on a sinister facing helm, all within a bordure embattled Or.

Her name was registered September 1988. If this is registered, her current device, Gules, semy of thistles, slipped and leaved, a lion rampant to sinister, brandishing a sword fesswise and a shield, its sinister hindpaw resting on a sinister facing helm, all within a bordure embattled Or, is to be released.

The submitted blazon is taken from her currently registered one, and the emblazon duplicates the current emblazon (including the line of the bordure); all she's done is remove the strewn charge group.

Device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


Coinneach Kyllyr of Kilernan - New Badge:
(Fieldless) A lion rampant to sinister, brandishing a sword fesswise and a shield, its sinister hindpaw resting on a sinister facing helm, all within a bordure embattled Or.

Her name was registered September 1988. The submitted blazon matches that of her current device.

The badge has two problems: (1) Fieldless badges may not use charges that issue from the edge of the field (a fieldless badge has no field!). Therefore, fieldless badges may not use bordures. (2) Even were the bordure changed to, say, an annulet embattled on the inner edge, this would need to be returned, since fieldless badges must be self-contained designs, with all the charges touching. (The rule of thumb is that a fieldless badge design must be capable of being cut from a piece of sheet metal and worn as a pin.) Since the lion doesn't touch the outer charge, this must be returned for that reason as well. Crescent does not recommend an annulet embattled on the inner edge as it is probably not registerable.

Badge returned for stylistic problems.


Kristopher Tike - New Name and Device:
Purpure, a phoenix Or rising from flames issuant from base proper and in chief two pairs of swords inverted in saltire argent.

The submitter desires a masculine name. No other boxes are checked.

Kristopher, in this spelling is the submitter's mundane first name as documented on his California Drivers License. The given name is not obtrusive as Christopher appears seventy-nine times in Talan's "Late Sixteenth Century English Given Names" (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/eng16/eng16alpha.html).

Tike is found in Reaney &Wilson (s.n. Tike, p.447) dated 1141.

Name and device approved and forwarded to Laurel.


OP Notes

Giovanni Bizzarro received his AoA under the name Giovanni Bellistrella.


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