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Minutes of the 15 August 2002 Meeting

[Note: These submissions appear on the Feb 2003 LoAR]

Notes and Announcements

Future heraldry meetings are scheduled for September 15 and October 6. Tentative dates for the rest of the year are November 3 and December 15.

Crescent is looking for applications for: 1) Dolphin Herald, 2) a submissions herald, 3) a deputy for GWW war herald, 4) arranging for consulting at Kingdom events. Volunteers are needed at GWW to do consulting, field heraldry at tourneys, and working as town criers.

Quarterly reports due October 6th for all territorial heralds.

Kingdom needs two copies of name forms, three color and two black-and-white outline copies of armory. Any documentation must accompany each copy of the corresponding form.


al-Sahid, Shire of

Davi d'Orléans (Kingdom Resub Device)

Azure, two fleurs-de-lis Or and a sword inverted conjoined with two wings in lure

Name:
The submitter's name was registered in April '02.
Device:
No record of a previous device submission was found. This is not a resubmission.

DEVICE RETURNED FOR LACK OF FUNDS

Kiena Gledston (New Name and Device)

Per pale argent and azure, two decrescents counterchanged

Name:

The submitter desires a feminine name and will not accept major changes. No other preferences were indicated.

Kiena is found dated to 1180 under the heading Kinna in "Feminine Given Names in A Dictionary of English Surnames" by (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/reaneyHZ.html) by Talan Gwynek.

Under the heading Gladstone, Gledstone, Gledstanes on p. 192, R&W date the spellings de Gledstan to 1296 and de Gladstan to 1364. The desired spelling Gledston should be an acceptable variant.

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL


Altavia, Barony of

Ifanwy ferch Morien (New Name and Device)

Azure goutty, on a roundel argent a swan naiant sable

Name:

The submitter is interested in a feminine name authentic for the Welsh language and will allow all changes.

Ifanwy, though undated, is listed as both a masculine and feminine name on p. 60 of Gruffudd.

ferch is a feminine Welsh patronymic prefix meaning "daughter of".

Morien is listed as a masculine name on p. 73 of Gruffudd. Gruffudd notes "Soldier who went to Catraeth". Morien is also found on p. 31 in CA #66, "A Welsh Miscellany".

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL


Calafia, Barony of

D{y'}rfinna Eyverska (New Device)

Argent semy of roundels azure, a bucket vert and on a base azure a billet fesswise Or

Name:
The submitter's name was approved at the June '02 heraldry meeting.
Device:
The roundels are not round and do not fill the entire field. The base is too large and blurs the distinction between per fess and a base, and should be drawn somewhat smaller. The billet is longer than normally expected. This device also has a complexity count of 8. These multiple problems combined are reason enough to return for redraw.

DEVICE RETURNED FOR REDRAW

Medb ingen Mathghamhain (New Name)

Name:

The submitter wants a feminine name and allows minor changes.

Medb is a heading on p. 135 of ÓC&M. The authors assert that this was "one of the 20 most popular names in later medieval Ireland". Submitted as Medbh, precedent states:

[Medbh Gillacon] The name is being returned for lack of documentation for the given name. The documentation for the given name was taken from The Book of Irish Names, which is not a reliable source. Furthermore, the form there was not Medbh, but Meadhbh. (Jaelle of Armida, LoAR March 1999, p. 10)

ingen is a feminine Gaelic patronymic article.

Mathgamain is a heading on p. 135 of ÓC&M. Mathgamain was brother to Brian Moru, another Mathgamain died in 1019.

Submitted as Medbh inghean Mathghamhain, the name was changed to Medb ingen Mathghamhain to match documented forms of the given name and the relationship marker was changed to match the pre-1200 spellings of the given name and patronymic.

NAME APPROVED AS CHANGED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Rayne of Skye (Kingdom Resub Name and Device)

Azure, a schnecke issuant from sinister chief and in canton an annulet argent

Name:

The submitter's previous name submission, Scathach of Skye, was returned at the June CoH meeting for using a non-human given name. She allows minor changes and does not care about the gender of the name.

From the Dec. '88 LoAR, registering Rayna Haakonardottir:

This given name seems reasonable as the Oxford Dictionary of Saints (p. 340) shows "Rayne" as saint honoured in Somerset (possibly this is an English simplification of "Regina" based on the French "reine").

Under the heading Rain, Raine, Rayne on p. 370, R&W give the derivation as "Fr Reine. Lat Regina 'queen', a personal-name found in France." Reina and Reyna are dated to 1214 as given names and Reyne 1260, Reine 1279, and Rayn 1379 as surnames. The desired spelling would appear to be an acceptable period variant. In Dauzat's Noms et Prénoms, Reine is the heading of an undated feminine given name on p. 515.

Skye is an island off the west coast of Scotland known for its cloud cover and bridge. Skye is found as the spelling of an entry on p. 1781 of the CLG. According to precedent [Cáel of Skey, 04/02, A-Caid]:

...the spelling Skye has only been found dated to circa 1610 (in Speed's The Counties of Britain, p. 266, map of Scotland, map drawn 1610). Johnston (p. 296 s.n. Skye) dates Skey to 1292.

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL


Saint Artemas, College of (Calafia)

Alvar Dax (New Name)

Name:

The submitter will accept minor, but not major changes. If the name must be changed, he cares most about the sound. If Alvar is deemed incompatible with Dax, the submitter will accept Oliver. He will not allow the creation of a holding name.

Alvar is found in "Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century" by Juliana de Luna (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/isabella/MensGivenAlpha.html). Spanish/English names are a weirdness, but registerable (q.v.: Andrew Quintero, 09/99). Oliver is found dated to 1249 and 1273 as a heading on p.232 of Withycombe.

Dax is found undated as part of the heading Dack, Dax on p. 123 in R&W. The name Alexander Dacke is dated to 1275. Under the heading Sax on p. 394, R&W date Godwin Sax to 1178 and John le Sax to 1327. Sack is also a heading on p. 388. Also found on p. 268 under the heading Knox are the names John de Cnoc 1260, Hugo Cnox c.1272 and Alan de Knockis 1328. These pairs indicate that the -ax form was used in period, and that Dack and Dax are possibly interchangable spellings.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Kolbrandr Kolsson (Kingdom Resub Name)

Name:

The submitter's previous submission, Kolr Kaldspaði, was returned at the July 2002 meeting for lack of documentation of the byname. He is interested in a masculine name, and if the name must be changed, he cares most about the sound. No other boxes were checked.

Kolbrandr is found as a masculine given name on p. 12 of Geirr Bassi.

Kolsson is a patronymic formed according to the guidelines given on p. 17 of Geirr Bassi using the given name Kolr, which is found on p. 13 of Geirr Bassi.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Ross Mahoney (New Name)

Name:

The submitter is interested in a masculine name. If the name must be changed, he cares most about the sound.

Ross is the submitter's legal given name. Under the heading Ross on p. 157 ÓC&M note:

In the early period Ross was a relatively common name for legendary heroes and founders of dynasties. There is also a St. Ross of Down. In the forms Rossa and Rosa it occurs in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries ...

Also, under the heading Ross on p. 383, R&W list Rozo 1086, Rosce de Pileham 1196, and Johannes filius Rosce 1197.

MacLysaght gives (O) Mahony as an undated heading on p. 205. It is related to (Mac) Mahon. Mahoney is also the spelling of a heading on p. 132 in Woulfe.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL


Darach, Shire of

Lucia da Silva (New Name)

Name:

The submitter is interested in a feminine name and desires a 15th-16th C. Portuguese name, but permits no changes. (Or, rather, she wants to be consulted on any changes beforehand.)

Lucia is found as a feminine given name in the article "16th Century Spanish Women's Names" by Elsbeth Anne Roth (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/spanish.html).

The byname da Silva is found in the article "Portuguese Names from the 16th Century" by Juliana de Luna (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/portugal16.htm).

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Sitheag inghean Lachlainn (New Name)

Name:

The submitter is interested in a feminine name. If the name must be changed, she is most interested in the language/culture (Gaelic in Scotland), and she permits minor, but not major changes.

Sitheag is a heading on p. 728 in Black, where it is listed as a feminine given name, the "feminine form of the Sithech ... well known in the late Middle Ages." Black dates the anglicized form Sydok to 1540.

The byname inghean Lachlainn is intended to mean "daughter of Lachlann" in late-period Gaelic. Under the heading Maclachlan on p. 533, Black gives MacLachlainn as the Gaelic for "son of Lachlann". There are various spellings dated from 1060, including Lochlainn Mac Lochlainn 1060 and Celestine Maclachlane 1425. Woulfe has Ó Lachlainn under the heading Lachlin on p. 104.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL


Dreiburgen, Barony of

Aidan Creagh (Kingdom Resub Device)

Per bend sinister azure and sable, a skull and a wolf sejant uluant argent

Name:
The submitter's name was approved at the July '02 CoH meeting.
Device:
His previous submission Per bend sinister beviled azure and sable, a skull and wolf sejant ululant argent was returned at that meeting for a low contrast field with a complex line of division.

DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL


Gallavally, Canton of (Dreiburgen)

Edward the Sinister (New Device)

Sable, a pale vert fimbriated, overall in chief a boar passant contourny argent

Name:
The submitter's name was approved at the July '02 CoH meeting.

DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Gregory de Saville (New Device)

Per fess sable and azure, three crosses flory argent and a lion's head jessant de lys Or

Name:
The submitter's name was registered in Nov. '99.

DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL


Dun Or, Barony of

Arthur Knox (New Device)

Quarterly sable and argent, a cross counter-changed between two roses azure slipped and leaved vert

Name:
The submitter's name was registered in Oct. '95.
Device:
The submitter is advised to draw the roses with the petals more open to avoid the appearance of rosebuds, which are not registerable.

DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Felyse de la Mare (New Name and Device)

Or, a swan rousant sable perched on a viol fesswise proper within a bordure embattled sable

Name:

The submitter is interested in a feminine name and will not accept major changes. If the name must be changed, she is most interested in the language/culture, which she is interested in having authentic for French.

Felyse is found in "An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris" by Colm Dubh (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/paris.html).

de la Mare is a variation of Delamare, which is found as a heading on p. 185 in Dauzat's Noms et Prénoms.

Device:
This device conflicts with Salvador Paolo de Barcelona (12/87), Or, an eagle rising wings elevated and addorsed grasping in its dexter claw a sword gules all within a bordure embattled sable with at most one CD for the posture of the birds. The submitter should be advised to draw the bordure thicker. The viol should be drawn a little larger in order to be a co-primary and in a standard heraldic orientation, fesswise rather than slightly tilted.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL
DEVICE RETURNED FOR CONFLICT


Gyldenholt, Barony of

Darius Drake Blackacre (New Name and Device)

Quarterly azure and vairy argent and sable, in bend two dragons Or

Name:

The submitter is interested in a masculine name.

Darius is the name of several Persian kings as shown in the on-line Encyclopædia Britannica. Darius is also found as a heading on p. 176 of Dauzut's Noms et Prénoms. It is undated, but listed as a personal name and a surname, apparently after those named Darius in ancient times ("en usage tardivement d'apres des personages de l'Antiquite"). Darius has been registered 13 times, as recently as July 2001 when Darius Xavier Drake was registered without comment.

Drake is found as a heading on p. 141 in R&W with Robert, David Drake 1185, 1190.

Blackacre is a constructed surname based on a locative meaning "black field". Under the heading Blackland on p. 47, Ekwall dates Blakeland to 1194 and gives the meaning "Black land, referring no doubt to dark soil." Ekwall also states on p. 47:

OE blæc 'black' is a common first el. in pl. ns., especially names of streams and hills. The meaning is no doubt generally 'dark-coloured', referring to the colour of the water, surface of hills or the soil.

Under the heading Whiteacre on p. 513, Ekwall dates Witacre to the Domesday Book, and Netherwhitacre to 1312. He gives the meaning as "white field". Ekwall also shows several white/black pairs: Whitford "white ford" (p. 514) and Blackford "black ford" (p. 47); Whitmore "white moor" (p. 514) and Blackmore "black moor" (p. 47); Whitwell "white spring or stream" (p. 515) and Blackwell "black stream" (p. 47). Given these pairs and the documentation for Whiteacre, Blackacre is a reasonable byname based on a dark or black field. Under the heading æcer on p. 2, Smith's English Place-Name Elements gives the meaning "a plot of arable or cultivated land, a measure of land." Smith states "In compounds it is most commonly combined with a word denoting the crop ... weeds and other plants ... the nature of the soil." Examples dealing with type of soil include Chadacre, Hardacre, Sandiacre, and Stoneacre. Under the heading bl{a-}c on p. 37, it is noted "'pale, white (as with foam), bleak', is difficult to separate from blæc" and "where it occurs it would be necessary to assume that the meaning 'bleak, bare of vegetation' was more general at an early date than literary texts suggest." The examples included are Black Burn and Blockmoor. Under the heading blæc on p. 37 it states "black, dark-coloired, dark', the sense 'dark-coloured' being usual in r. ns. and hill-names..." Examples include Blackamore, Blackborough, Blackburn, and Blackmoor.

Under the heading Blackledge on p. 47, R&W date Richard Blacklach to 1473 and give the meaning "dweller by the dark stream". Under Blackhall on p. 47, Ralph de Blackhale is dated 1332 meaning "dweller by the dark nook". These show that the spelling Black was used in compound names, in addition to the more common Blake. Similarly, Ekwall dates Blackwater to 1576 as a heading on p. 47.

Device:

The device forms are obviously cut-and-paste copies from computer generated artwork. The heater shape is nowhere near the correct size and shape, and this is reason for return.

Bruce Laurel ruled:

[Quarterly Or and lozengy azure and Or, in bend two <charges>] After much soul-searching, I must agree with the commenters who saw an appearance of marshalling in the device. Rule XI.3.b states that quarterly may be used only "when no single portion of the field [appears] to be an independent piece of armory." In general, complexity in any of the quarters makes it look like independent armory; for example, XI.3.b explicitly cites the use of multiple charges in a quarter as unacceptable. The motif Quarterly X and Y, in bend two [charges] is allowable when the uncharged quarters are plain tinctures; we don't protect plain tinctures. But when the uncharged quarters are complex fields, we lose that rationale; and the complexity then begins to make it look like an independent coat. This, beneath all the subtext, is exactly what XI.3.b is meant to prevent. (Aric Thomas Percy Raven, October, 1992, pg. 30).

There is a significant probability that this device will be returned under the cited precedent for the vair quarters giving the appearance of marshalling. The submitter should be aware of this if he decides to resubmit with the same design.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL
DEVICE RETURNED FOR REDRAW


Starkhafn, Barony of

Starkhafn, Barony of: Guild of the Gilded Spoon (New Household Name and Badge)

Sable, a spoon bendwise sinister inverted Or and a bordure rayonny gules fimbriated of flames Or

Name:

The submitters care most about the meaning. No other preferences were indicated.

This doesn't conflict with the Order of the Golden Spoon (12/99), as golden and gilded are different in sound and appearance. The OED has gilded in this meaning ("The goodly gilded cups and goblets") dated to 1566. The word is used earlier by Chaucer "With many glade gilde stremys dated 1369." The meaning "tinged with a golden color" is dated to 1588 from Shakespeare. The first use of spon is 1340 as an eating utensil. The word spone is dated from 1380-1553 and is dated to 1426 with the spelling spoon.

The name forms indicate that this submission is to be used by the barony of Starkhafn, but the names of the submitters are not those of the baron/ess, seneschal or herald of the barony. No petition of support was included with the submission, and we cannot forward this without it.

Badge:
The spoon is drawn in trian aspect, which is not allowed. Bordures may not be fimbriated, neither may bordures consist of flames.

NAME RETURNED FOR LACK OF SUPPORT
BADGE RETURNED FOR MULTIPLE PROBLEMS

Daimhín le Milner (New Name)

Name:

The submitter is interested in a masculine name, and if the name must be changed, he cares most about the sound. No other preferences were indicated.

Under the heading Devin on p 133, R&W say "The Irish Devin(e) is for Ó Daimhín or Ó Duibhín 'descendant of Daimhín or of Duibhín', diminuitives of damh 'ox, stag' and dubh 'black'." ÓC&M give Daimhín as a post-1200 spelling as part of the heading Daimíne on p. 68. Submitted as Daimhin we added the accent to match the documentation.

le Milner is dated to 1297 in the desired spelling under the heading Milner, Millner on p. 310 in R&W. The surname is also found in this spelling, and several others, in Middle English Surnames of Occupation 1100-1350 by Gustav Franson.

Mixing Gaelic and English in a single name is registerable, but a weirdness (Ian MacHenrik, 10/99) as is Gaelic/French (Maura MacPharlain, 02/00).

NAME APPROVED AS CHANGED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Isabella Dragomani (Kingdom Resub Name and New Device)

Vert, a portcullis and in chief three roundels argent

Name:

The submitter's original name submission, Sylvia Andrioni of Aquae Solis was returned for further work at Kingdom in April '97. She is interested in a feminine name authentic to 14th C. Italy, and will accept major but not minor changes. If the name must be changed, the submitter cares most about the language/culture.

Isabella is found as a heading on p. 215 in de Felice's Nomi. This is the heroine from Boccaccio's Decameron (14th C.). In addition, Isabella is found four times in the article "Feminine Given Names from the Online Catasto of Florence of 1427" by Arval Benicoeur (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/arval/catasto/).

Dragomani is found as a byname of occupation meaning "interpreter, originally an interpreter to an Oriental Court" on p. 161 in Fucilla.

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Máiréad ingean Thraolaigh (New Name)

Name:

The submitter is interested in a feminine name and will not accept major changes. No other preferences were specified.

Máiréad is found as a post-1200 spelling under the heading Máregrég on p. 134 of ÓC&M where it is listed as a feminine given name "relatively popular in Ireland after the fourteenth century."

inghean is a post-1200 patronymic marker meaning "daughter of".

Under the heading Tairdelbach on p. 169, ÓC&M list Traolach as a post-1200 spelling. The consulting herald believes Thraolaigh to be the correct genitive, lenited form for the patronymic form of Traolach. Woulfe has the heading Traelach on p. 203, which is cross-referenced to Toirdealbhach on p. 202. The genitive form given there is Toirdealbhaigh.

This name is clear of Máirghréad inghean Thaithligh (08/97) because the patronym is different in both appearance and sound.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Richard de Frayne (New Name and Device)

Azure, a bend sinister between a dragon and a tree couped argent

Name:

The submitter is interested in a masculine name. If the name must be changed he cares most about the language/culture (12th century Norman). No other boxes were marked.

Richard is the spelling of a heading on p. 253 in Withycombe.

R&W list Frayne, de Fraine, and de Freyne as alternate heading spellings under the main heading Frain on p. 176. Dated spellings include Peter de Frane 1228, Richard del Frene 1271, and William a la Freyne 1279. The submitter's mother registered the name Melisande de Frayne in Nov. '97. He wishes the same spelling.

Device:
The submitted emblazon used a silver or gray colored pencil. This has been reason for return in the past. While acceptable for display, the submission paperwork needs to be white. In addition, the bend sinister is slightly offset; it should be an equal width on either side of the corner. The secondary charges should also be drawn larger.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL
DEVICE RETURNED FOR REDRAW


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