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Minutes of the 16 December 2001 Meeting

[Note: These submissions appear on the May 2002 LoAR]

Notes and Announcements

As a reminder, please e-mail submission summaries to Jeanne Marie () prior to each CoH meeting. Copies of the submissions may also be faxed to her at [suppressed for privacy - contact via email for number].

The next heraldry meeting will be Sunday, January 27, 2002.

Domesday Reports are due by 12th Night. Your reports may be brief, but should include the following information
Dates of events you heralded with all awards given out for the year (both local and kingdom)
List your deputies with contact information, including your own contact information (mundane name, address, phone number, e-mail address, etc).
Include general comments on the state of the herald's office in your area. Paper copies are preferred but electronic form is okay.
Crescent reminds all heralds that they are required to submit quarterly reports unless you attend at least one Kingdom meeting every three months.

Crescent wishes to state that the Caidan College of Heralds is the best in the Known World, not because of who is Crescent but for the knowledge and expertise of its members. Many thanks to everyone for all their hard work.

We have not had an LoAR from Laurel since the last meeting.

Master James recommends several books that are available from the Heraldry Today. In addition he and Master Erikr recommend the following document available online as a great source for Norse names from runic inscriptions - http://www.vikinganswerlady.org/FTP_Files/NordisktRunnamnslexicon.zip

Bjorn, the 13 year old canine member of the College passed away on Monday from cancer, and will be greatly missed by all members present.


al-Sahid, Shire of

Miriam Shadewehauke (New Device)

Azure, a horse statant between a chief indented and a base indented Or

Name:
Name registered 08/95
Device:
The chief should be drawn larger. Conflict Azure, a horse passant Or registered to the Kingdom of the West (01/74) for the Equestrian Arts Office. There is only a single CD for adding a secondary charge group.

DEVICE RETURNED FOR CONFLICT

Saher de Wahull (New Name)

Name:

He wants a masculine name, British 1200's. He will accept no changes.

Saher is found on p. 394 of R&W (sn Sayer) where Saher de Arcelis is dated to 1147-53.

de denotes a local byname, as is outlined in R&W p. xv in the section titled Local Surnames. "English local surnames may derive from the manor held (Adam de Cokefeld 1121-48 Bury); from the place of residence (Ralph de Nordstrate 1197 P ...; or from the place from which a man had come: Brihtmarcus de Haverhell' (1158P)".

Wahull is found on p. 348 of Ekwall (sn Odell) dated in this spelling to 1193. R&W on p. 327 (sn Odell) list Simon de Wahull' dated to 1212.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL


Angels, Barony of

Henri Bigod (New Device)

Ermine, a talbot courant sable, a bordure azure

Name:
Name was submitted on the 5/10/01 LoI.

DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Ingilborg Sigmundardóttir (Resub Laurel Device)

Azure, in pale two wolves courant Or

Name:
Name registered 08/01.
Device:
This is a resubmission of the device returned by Laurel 08/01 for conflict with Katherine Goodpasture: Per fess and per pale embattled erminois and gules, in bend sinister two talbots passant Or. Viscountess Katherine Goodpasture has granted permission to conflict.

DEVICE AND PERMISSION TO CONFLICT SENT TO LAUREL


Boethius, College of

Roland of Glen Lyon (New Name)

Name:

The submitter wants a masculine name. If the name must be changed he cares most about the language/culture "first name as an English origin, last name is my historical family's location and family name".

Roland is found on p. 447 of Withycombe (sn Roland) where she states "Roland was a favourite in the Middle Ages". It is undated in this form. Rolland is dated to 1086, Rolandus to 1186-1220, 1316, and 1428, and Rouland to the 13th C. If necessary, he will accept the spelling Rolland.

Glenlyon is found on p. 193 in Johnston (sn Glenlyon). It is dated to 1522 in this spelling and to 1328 as Glenlyoun. The submitter prefers Glen Lyon to Glenlyon. We note that "of Glen Lyon" has been registered twice (04/96 and 03/97) while "of Glenlyon" has never been registered.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL


Calafia, Barony of

Craig MacDonald (New Name and Device)

Per fess embattled argent and sable a torteau and a plate

Name:

He wants a male name and will not accept major changes.

Craig is submitter's legal given name, driver's license copy attached. We note that in period this name was a common surname which subsequently came into use as a personal name. We have no period dates for the use as a prenom.

MacDonald header in Black, pg. 486 meaning "son of Donald". Dated spellings include MakDonald 1571, M'Donyll 1521, and John M'Donnyle 1326.

NAME AND DEVICEAPPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Danielle Victoire de Steele (New Name and Device)

Argent, a fleur-de-lis purpure within an orle of ivy leaves vert

Name:

The submitter does not care about gender of the name and will not accept major changes.

Danielle- submitters legal name, copy birth certificate attached. Similar names to Danielle were always male in period as far as we found.

Victoire, Dauzat Prenoms, pg 594 vicaire-vieu

de Steele Reaney and Wilson pg 426 under the header Steel date Jordan le Stel to 1324.

Note that her legal brother is Geoffrey de Steele, whose name was registered in March of 1998 (via Caid). The submitting herald personally knows both Danielle and Geoffrey. Their surnames and mailing addresses are identical.

Device:
Considering Argent, a fleur-de-lis purpure within an annulo of lozenges vert registered to Elaine of Elswick (02/94). There is a CD for type of secondaries and another for the arrangement (annulo vs. orle).

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Felice Filadoro (New Name)

Name:

She wants a feminine name and will not accept major changes.

Felice is found in deFelice Nomi on p. 166 as the header spelling. Also found in Withycombe on p. 116 under the header Felicia, dated in this spelling (Felice) to 1460.

Filadoro, Fucilla Our Italian Surnames p. 171 paragraph Textile Trade, meaning 'spinner'. The name is undated.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Gerhard Goosen (New Device)

Quarterly argent and sable, a Latin cross clechy and in base two geese statant respectant, wings elevated and addorsed counterchanged rousant respectant counterchanged

Name:
Name approved at the 10/01 Caid CoH meeting.
Device:
We note that the cross is very slender slender and Laurel has returned similar devices (e.g. swords) for lack of identifiability. There are numerous returns, such as "[a column counterchanged] Laurel precedent has long forbidden counterchanging long skinny objects along its long axis. [Octavia Columella, 01/00, R-Atlantia]", for counterchanging skinny objects along the axis. We also recommend that the geese be drawn in a proper rousant posture as this depiction is not significantly different from a swan.

DEVICE RETURNED FOR COUNTERCHANGING A LONG, NARROW OBJECT

Julianna Neuneker Hirsch von Schutzhundheim (Resub Laurel device)

Sable, a feurstein between four furisons in saltire Or

Name:
Name registered 06/92.
Device:

Her previous submission, Sable semy of sparks, a stone enflamed between in saltire four furisons blades to center Or, was returned 01/01 with the comment

"The strewn charges are not sparks, nor any other recognizable charge. The submitter documented similar items, but only as parts of rays, not as independent charges. Furthermore, the rock enflamed is not identifiable; as drawn it looks like a sun. To make it look more like a rock enflamed, the flames should point only to chief and possibly to the sides."

The submitter has redrawn the device and added documentation to support her depiction. The submitter includes a photocopy from a book titled "Traité d'Heraldique" by Michel Pastoureau, Seconde Édition. On page 217 is a reproduction of a manuscript page from a document titled "Champion des Dames" by Martin le Franc, in which he shows the device of Philippe le Bon, duc de Bourgogne (Philippe of Burgundy), in which the scribe shows no less than 19 similar yet distinctly different depictions of Philippe's arms, each with a furison striking a feurstein. All depictions show sparks resembling goutes radiating outward, and definitely not the English depiction of triplets of dots nor the standard depiction of flames. The submitter also includes six examples reproduced from "The German Single Leaf Woodcut - 1500 to 1550". On all of them are depictions of various combinations of furisons and fire stones (feurstein), with captions delineating the proper usage of each. In particular, one caption states, "The Feurstein is usually depicted with radiating flames and sparks. Sometimes they cover the entire background and sometimes there are none." We note that all six depictions show sparks and flames which are wavy and radiate outward in all directions from the fire stone. Because of this, we are leaving out any mention of the flames which are radiating outward. In addition we believe that the default depiction of furisons should have their blades towards the firestone. We will bow to the College's decision on the final blazon.

If this is registered she wishes to release her old device, Per bend sinister embattled argent and sable, a wyvern erect gules grasping in both claws a hammer bendwise sable and a harp bendwise sinister argent.

DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Haukr Klængsson (New Device)

Azure, a pall inverted Or cotised argent between three hawks' heads erased Or

Name:
Name submitted on the 08/01 LoI.

DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Róisín ingen uí Fhlaithbertaig (New Name)

Name:

She wants a feminine name and will not accept major changes. She wants an authentic name meaning Róisín of the clan Flaithrí.

Róisín is found in OCM pg 156 under heading Rois. Róisín is a popular diminutive form of Rois from old German hros 'horse'. Brought to England by Normans then to Ireland by the 16th century. Róisín is a popular diminutive form. It is also found undated in Woulfe (p. 216).

Úi Flaithbertaig is found ibid (p. 104) under Flaithbertach, shown in the lenited form. The submitter refers to p. 105 and correctly spells the name in the "Documentation" portion of the form then appears to have incorrectly copied the name to the top. We have corrected the name to reflect the documented spellings. In addition, as the name Flaithbertach is dated to 765, the early period feminine patronymic ingen appears appropriate.

Submitted as Róisín ingen uí Fhlaithtaig.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Séadach inghean Mhurchadha (New name)

Name:

She wants a feminine name and will not accept major changes.

Séadach found in OCM pg 165 header Sétach as a feminine name meaning 'having rich possessions'. "This uncommon name was borne by an eleventh-century princess, daughter of Ó Lorcáin."

Murchadh ibid pg 142, header Murchad meaning 'sea-battler', a son of Brian Boru who died in 1070. OCM state "Murchad was one of the more popular early Irish names." Murchadh is listed as the "modern" spelling. The submitter therefore uses the later period feminine patronymic inghean.

Submitted as Séadach inghean Murchadh. We have lenited the surname and put it into the genitive.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Seraphina Sacheverell (Resub Kingdom badge)

[Fieldless] A cross of Jerusalem sable

Name:
Name approved at the 11/01 CoH meeting.
Device:
Previous badge, Argent, a Jerusalem cross sable was returned 11/01 for conflict with Jerusalem, Argent, a cross potent between four crosses couped Or. This submission clears that conflict by making the badge fieldless. Jaelle ruled "The Cross of Jerusalem is a defined single charge, though it consists of discrete elements in the same way than an ermine spot does. (Gregory Tobias Barre, 7/96 p. 18)." As a defined single charge, a cross of Jerusalem should be registerable as a fieldless badge, just as an ermine spot is -- "The ermine spot is considered a single charge, and is acceptable for fieldless badges (Eduard Halidai, July, 1992, pg. 3)".

BADGE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Sibylla Greystone of Stotesbury (Resub Kingdom badge)

[Fieldless] Two goblets conjoined in fess sable

Name:
Name registered 03/90.
Device:
Her previous submission, [Fieldless] Two goblets conjoined in bend sable, was withdrawn last month (11/01) by submitting herald. Against Checky vert and argent two cups in fess sable Anne Elizabeth of Surrey (01/91). There is a CD for fieldlessness but nothing for conjoined vs. not conjoined.

BADGE RETURNED FOR CONFLICT

Tadhg Mac Murchadha (New Name)

Name:

He wants a masculine name and will not accept major changes. He states "the Tinker" can be added to clear conflict if necessary in Gaelic.

Tadhg- OCM pg 168, under header Tadc meaning 'poet' a son of Brian Boru was named Tadc, died in 1023. OCM state "This name was relatively common in the early period and became extremely popular later." Tadhg is listed as the "modern" spelling.

Murchadha ibid pg 142, header Murchad meaning 'sea-battler', another son of Brian Boru who died in 1070. OCM state "Murchad was one of the more popular early Irish names." Murchadh is listed as the "modern" spelling.

Ceàrd (masculine) meaning 'tinker' , The New English-Gaelic Dictionary, Thomson Derick, Gairm Publications, Glasglow, 1986

Submitted as Tadhg Mac Murchadh. We have added the final "a" to change the given name into the genitive, as per Wolfe (p. 394).

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Yryc of Isenfir (New Name)

Name:

He wants a masculine name and will not accept major changes.

Yryc is found Searle (p. 526, snYric), dated to 948.

Isenfir is a shire name registered Aug 79 via the East.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL


Heatherwyne, Shire of

Robert Tyr 'Achadh ná nGall de Saragossá du Aragon et Tiers (New Name)

Name:

He wants a male name and is interested in having his name authentic for 11th century Brittany France. The most important part of the name is "Achadh ná nGall". He believes the name means "bright one of war in the field of foreigners at Saragossa in Aragon at the steps".

Robert is found on p. 254 of Withycomber (sn Robert), where it states "It occurs frequently in the Domesday Book." Robert also appears on Colm Dubh's "An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris" (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/paris.html).

Tyr is Norse, the Celtic god of war.

'Achadh ná nGall is documented by the submitter from a website http://www3.telus.net/pollock/name.htm, Auchinachie News and World Report. This page includes excerpts from The Surnames of Scotland by George Black and The Celts which is edited by Joseph Raftery. We assume that the quotes from The Celts are correct, as those from Black are correct, though we are unsure as to the quality of the actual information. The Celts was published by The Mercier Press in 1964. It is a collection of essays. The essay quoted is "The Celtic Aftermatch in the Islands" by Professor Kenneth Jackson. The excerpt is included below:

Some parts of the Highlands and almost all the Hebrides still speak Gaelic, of course, and the rest did so until recently; but a considerable amount of Gaelic must have been spoken for a time not only in, for instance, Aberdeenshire and Kincardineshire and Fife but also as far south as the English border. This state of affairs did not last very long, for Gaelic was driven back again towards the Highlands during the twelfth and thirteenth centuries, but the undoubted traces of it are to be seen in the form of place-names given by the Gaelic Scots who settled in these wild lands. Names like Achingall, "achadh na nGall", "the field of the foreigners"...are clear evidence of this. The Irish colony [of Gaels] in western Scotland had a very different fate from those in Wales and western England and it has given to Scotland a permanent Gaelic inheritance. [The Celts, p. 79]

From p. 35 of Black (sn Auchinachie) "Of local origin from Auchanachie in the parish of Keith, Banffshire. John Awchanyowche, son and heir of quondam Philip de Auchanyouche, had a charter of the lands of Auchanyouche in the barony of Rothiemay in 1448. William Auchquhennachy of that Ilk appears as a juror on an inquest in 1575, James Achannachie was servitor to William Meldrum of Moncoffer in 1592 and Alexander Achynachie is mentioned as present at the battle of Old Earne or Auldearn in 1650."

Saragossa is documented from the Britannica Concise (online). The entry states that Saragossa is was the capital of Aragon in Spain in the 12th-15th centuries.

Tiers is a French noun meaning steps or plateaus.

This name combines French, Norse, Gaelic, and Spanish. RfS III.1 states that "a name should not combine more than three languages." RfS III.2 states that "Every name as a whole should be compatible with the culture of a single time and place." The combined names are not compatible to any given culture.

NAME RETURNED FOR NON-PERIOD STYLE, PER RFS III

Rotheric Kynith (New Name)

Name:

If the name must be changed he cares most about the language/culture (English/Welsh).

Rotheric is found in Withycombe (p. 255, sn Roderick) where it states "The corresponding Welsh name Rhydderch was rendered as Rotheric; Rothericus son of Gryfin is mentioned in FA 1303)."

Kynith is found in "A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names" by Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/welsh13.html. It is a byname based on an occupation (huntsman) and is listed as a 13th c. form.

Possible conflict with Rhydderch the Hunter and Roderic of the Hunt. This is technically clear by RFS V.1.a. as this name is significantly different in spelling and pronunciation from the registered names

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Vivienne de Lampérière (New Name)

Name:

She wants a feminine name and if the name must be changed she cares most about the language/culture (French).

Vivien is found in Colm Dubh's "An Index to the Given Names in the 1292 Census of Paris" at http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/paris.html as Vivien le serjant. Withycombe (p. 291, sn Vivien) states "Tennyson in his Vivien and Merlin used this form for French Vivienne, the name of the Lady of the Lake." And "Viviana is found in medieval records." Vivienne de la Chartreuse was registered by Laurel in 04/00 without comment.

de Lampérière is found "Sixteenth Century Norman Names" by Cateline de la Mor at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/cateline/norman16.html. Dauzat (p. 362, sn Lamprérière) indicates that Lampérière is a matronymic surname as well as a "nom de hameau" = "a hamlet's name".

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Vivienne de Lampérière and Rotheric Kynith: House of the Singing Dragon (New Household Name)

Name:
This is meant to be a household name based on an inn sign. They wish to keep the general idea of an inn sign. Their preference is for House Dragon's Song. The submitters believe that a dragon can be depicted on a sign in such a manner as to be identified as singing. We have found "singing" in the OED, in this sense, documented in this spelling to 1586. The OED gives many references within period to the gerund usage of the verb, with "syngynge man" c. 1340, and "syngyng byrdes" c. 1565. In addition there are several references to "singing bread", a medieval term (c. 1432) for holy water, and "singing cake", a medieval term (c. 1553) for the host or eucharist. We are unconvinced that this usage would apply to an inn sign. All of the examples of inn signs which follow the construction of "descriptive adjective - noun" date from the mid 1600's and later. We require that the submitter supply us with examples of period examples for this name formation.

HOUSEHOLD NAME RETURNED FOR LACK OF DOCUMENTATION


Lyondemere, Barony of

Christina O'Cleary (New Name)

Name:

She will accept major or minor changes to preserve the language/culture (16th c. Irish).

Christina is found on p. 65 of Withycombe (sn Christina), where she states "The earliest example of the name notes is Christina, sister of Edgar Atheline, who was born in Hungary and fl. 1086. It has been used in England ever since..." Under the header Christian(a) (p. 65) Withycombe notes "The name Christian, however, together with its Latin form Christiana (occasionally Christiania) are found from the end of the 12th C, and are rather commoner than Christina..." Christian is dated to 1562. These entries are feminine names. OCM on p. 111 (sn Gill Críst: Giolla Chríost) note this is a masculine name which was "widely used in Gaelic Ireland" and that it "has been anglicized as Christian".

O'Cleary is found on p. 46 in MacLysaght (sn (O) Clery, Cleary) where he notes that this was one of the earliest inherited surnames. This is also on of the anglicized form on p. 467 in Woulfe, where it is stated the O'Clearys lost their power in the 11th c.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Morgan mac Maoláin (New Device)

Argent, a hawk striking wings displayed sable tailed, on a chief gules three triquetras argent

Name:
The name was submitted and forwarded to Laurel with the October 2001 Caid LoI.
Device:
Conflict with Argent, a raven rising sable, on a chief gules three pairs of arrows inverted in saltire argent registered to André du Corbeau 04/83. There is a single CD for changes to the teritiaries.

DEVICE RETURNED FOR CONFLICT

Morgan mac Maoláin (New Badge)

[Fieldless] A hawk striking wings displayed sable tailed gules maintaining a triquetra gules

Name:
The name was submitted and forwarded to Laurel with the October 2001 Caid LoI.
Device:
Conflict with Argent, a raven rising reguardant wings disclosed, proper, in the dexter claw a sword gules reigstered to Cigfran Myddrael Joserlin, the Raven (08/76).

BADGE RETURNED FOR CONFLICT

Svana Laransdottir (Resub Kingdom Name Change, Resub Laurel Device)

Per chevron argent and vert, two thistles proper and a hourglass argent framed Or

Name:

Name was registered as Deredere inghean Chananaich 12/99. Her previous name change to Sigrid Lornesdohir was returned at the 10/00 CoH meeting for an unknown reason.

Svana is found in Lind, Norsk-Isländska Dopnamn Ock Fingerade Namn, Från Medeltiden (column 984) as the header spelling. It is apparently undated. The entry is "Ett enda fall: Sv Herradar d. kona Verstars Imns skriven a, Svonu Ln 2910, 1518, felakr."

Larans is found in Lind (column 727) under the header spelling Lafranz. It is dated in this spelling to 1488.

dottir is daughter

Device:
Her previous device Per chevron argent and vert, two thistles crossed in saltire inverted proper and an hourglass argent framed Or was returned by Laurel 12/99 with the comment "The thistles most be distorted to the point of unrecognizability to get them to cross in saltire." This submission corrects that problem.

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL


Naevehjem, Barony of

Áine inghean Uilliam (New Name)

Name:

Submitter will permit minor changes.

Áine is found as a given name (both masculine and feminine) in ÓCorráin & Maguire, pp. 19-20. Although it was the name of some goddesses and other legendary figures, it was also used by humans in period Ireland. It is also found in Woulfe, p. 206, as an "ancient Irish name".

inghean means "daughter".

Uilliam is a masculine given name introduced into Ireland by the Normans. "U" does not lenite. Woulfe, p. 203, indicates that the genitive is identical to the nominative case.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Deodonatus Cervarius (New Name and Device)

Argent, a dragon's head cabossed gules and a bordure potenty sable

Name:

Deodonatus is found in Withycombe, p. 82, under Deodatus Deodonatus is a latin, masculine given name found in England in 1205. Deodatus is also found in Lempriere, p. 202.

Cervarius, a Roman knight who conspired with Piso against Nero, is found in Lemprire's Classical Dictionary, p. 141.

Device:

Considering William de la Montaigne Coupé (06/83) Argent, a lion's head caboshed gules within bordure embattled sable, there is a CD for changing the line of division of the bordure and another for changing the lion's head to the dragon's head.

Note: The representation of potenty in this emblazon is from the An Tir templates by Torric inn Bjorni (mka Floyd L. Bullock, ©1992).

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL


Southron Gaard, Barony of

Southron Gaard, Barony of (Resub Kingdom badge)

[Fieldless] On a mullet of eight points gules, a tower Or

Name:
Name registered 05/86 and updated to Barony 01/99.
Device:
The badge is to be associated with Order of the Tour d'Or, registered to Southron Gaard 01/99. This same badge was returned in Kingdom 01/01 for conflict and lack of evidence of support. The cited conflicts were Alaric von Rotstern (Nov 79) [Fieldless] A mullet of eight points gules pierced and charged with an annulet Or, Von Cueur (Jan 73) Ermine, on a sun gules a heart Or, and at least one other. A petition is included this time but the same conflicts still exist. There is only a single CD for fieldlessness. A mullet of eight points is not considered simple armory under X4.j so two changes are needed to the tertiary in order to receive a CD.

BADGE RETURNED FOR CONFLICT

Michael vomme Harz (New Name and Device)

Per pale sable and argent, a pile inverted throughout counterchanged

Name:

This name appears in the minutes for the December 2000 meeting with the note that the submission was not discussed at the meeting. This is being treated as a new submission at this time.

The name is documented from report number 2114 by the Academy of St. Gabriel.

Michael is recorded in Silesia in 1379. It is found in Talan Gwynek's, "Medieval German Given Names from Silesia" (http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/bahlow_v.htm).

vomme Harze St. Gabriel's notes "As a prepositional phrase, the standard Middle High German spelling would have been <von deme Harze> [5,9]. The words <von deme> sometimes contracted to <vomme>, so <vomme Harze> is an alternative form [6]." Reference [9] states "Schwarz, Ernst, _Deutsche Namenforschung. II: Orts- und Flurnamen_(Goettingen: Vandenhoek & Ruprecht, 1950), p.179. He seems to imply that <Harz> is an old spelling of the place name. That yields <von deme Harze>, with the correct grammatical ending." Reference [6] states "Bahlow, s.n. <Seeber> has <vomme Sewe> 1336."

Device:
This device appears in the minutes for the December 2000 meeting with the note that the submission was not discussed at the meeting. This is being treated as a new submission. St. Gabriel noted the potential conflict with the SCA armory: Goswin Sterrenkijker van Sint Gillis Waas: Quarterly sable and argent, a pile inverted throughout counterchanged. It clear of the cited conflict -- 1 CD for changes to the field (X4.a) and 1 CD for changes to the line of division of the pile (X4.d)

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL


Starkhafn, Barony of

Michael of Starkhafn (Resub Laurel Name)

Name:

His first submission, Michael Haroldsson, was returned by Laurel 08/00 for conflict with Mikjal Haraldson. His next try, Michael Halsson was return at the 08/01 Caid CoH meeting for lack of documentation. He wants a male name.

Michael is found on p. 218-219 of Withycombe (sn Michael). It is dated to 1196-1215 in this spelling.

Starkhafn is an SCA-branch name registered 06/80 via Caid.

This is not a "holding" name -- this is the submitter's chosen name.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL


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