Minutes of the 12 October 1997 Meeting

[Note: These submissions appear on the March 1998 LoAR]

Notes and Announcements

The October chapter meeting of the Caidan College of Heralds took place on the 12th day of the month, and was called to order at 11:10-ish

Announcements: Eirikr has requested that his warrant be renewed. Contact Laurel for arguments, or if you wish the job, send resume to Laurel and Pelican. (Eirikr won't mind-really, he won't hold it against you-honest!) Madawc will now be submissions Herald, in order to allow Eirikr more time for administrative tasks and odd jobs. See the September LoAR for information about timing of Comments. Laurel and Pelican are also up for Warrant renewal. Contact the BoD if you want to apply for the job. Contact any former Laurel for job description (one is present). New forms are proposed by Laurel; contact Dolphin to comment/give input. Copyright/ownership of device art on forms is a major issue being addressed by Laurel and lawyer types, to avoid problems concerned with the armory CD-ROM project in progress. This art is not clipart. Master forms tailored to Caid will be available in November, and must be implemented by June '98. The High Courts of Chivalry is now available, much to Eirikr's delight. Laurel Acceptances and Rejections read aloud to meeting.

Names introduced all around. Eirikr reminded all heralds that the names of recipients of awards must be passed on to Crescent and to Christopher Leland after every event where awards are given.

There is a Caidan herald's mailing list on Christopher Thomas' machine. Reports may be e-mailed to caid_coh@castle.org, and they will be forwarded to Crescent, Dolphin, and Golden Rose. In addition, a general discussion mailing list is being set up at caid_heralds@castle.org. [original subscription directions deleted in favor of a link to the list page.]

al-Sahid, Shire of

1. Killian MacTaggart (New Name and Device)

Argent, a crescent sable and in base three gouts de larmes

Name:

Killian is found in Woulfe p. 175. We cannot support the spelling MacTaggart in period, but Black Surnames of Scotland p. 565 lists this spelling in the heading entry. The closest period spelling is Mactagart in Reaney and Wilson's Dictionary of English Surnames p. 293. All of the syllables of the name are found in period variations of the modern spelling. Both names are Anglicized spellings of Irish names.

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

2. Teka Túrmanov (New Name and Device)

Argent, a mullet of eight points voided gules

Name:

Teka is a diminutive of Tekusa, found in Tumanova, Complete Russian Name Book, p. 84. Túrmanov is found in Unbegaun Russian Surnames, p. 188, meaning 'tumbler-pigeon'.

Device:

Conflicts with SCA armory belonging to Alaric von Rotstern Argent, on an eight-pointed mullet gules, a griffin's head, a lion's head cabossed, and a wivern's head reversed, all erased and conjoined at the nape Or.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL
DEVICE RETURNED FOR CONFLICT

Altavia, Barony of

3. Petronia of Kent (Device Resub)

Azure, two annulets interlaced in fess between 3 fish Or

Name:

Name registered by Laurel 2/97

DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Angels, Barony of

4. Fáelán MacCearbhaill (New Name and Device)

Per bend gules and argent, a bend sable between two wolves sejant ululant counterchanged

Name:

MacCearbhaill is found under Carroll in MacLysaght Surnames of Scotland, p. 38. Fáelán is from O'Corráin & Maguire Gaelic Personal Names, p. 92, dated to 656 AD.

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Boethius, College of

5. Anstes Peregrine (New Name)

Name:

Anstes (Withycombe, p. 21, 22) Under Anastasia, a 16th-17th century variation. Peregrine (Reaney, p. 251) under Pilgrim, dated 1243.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

6. Esmeralda Blackadder (New Name and Device)

Vert, on a pale Or an adder erect, tail nowed sable, and on a chief Or three emeralds

Name:

Whithycombe notes the fact that Esmeralda is used in Palmerin of England, dated to the second half of the 16th century.

The Palmerin Romances in Elizabethan Prose Fiction (Mary Patchell, 1947, photocopies supplied) asserts the Palmeri Romances were widely known in England in period. (Nombres Propios Espa'noles, by Arana de Love, p. 186) cites Esmeralda as the femanized form of the Saint martyred in the 4th century. Blackadder (Reaney & Wilson, Dictionary of English Surnames, p. 46) cites the name from the 15th century under the heading of Blackadder.

Device:

Master Bruce asks if we can blazon the pale Or as a gate, giving us an Or gate with an Adder.

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

7. Grainne Ramage (New Name)

Name:

Submitted as Grainne Ramadge, Ramadge is in the header for (Reaney & Wilson), but the commentary does not provide an example of it. Ramage (Reaney & Wilson, p. 371), Peter Ramage c1240. (Black p. 681), only documents Ramage or Rammage. Grainne (Withycombe, p. 138), a popular Irish name. (Ó Corráin & Maguire p. 114), shows Gráinne. Grania (Withycombe, p. 138) under Grainne. "A notable example was Grainne (Grace) O'Malley, the Amazonian princess who opposed the forces of Queen Elizabeth."

RETURNED FOR LINGUISTIC INCOMPATABILITY - IRISH AND ENGLISH MIXED

8. Miyao Kaneko (New Name)

Name:

Submitter attaches (Japan Biographical Encyclopedia, The Rengo Press, Ltd. Tokyo, Japan) Miyao (p 883) dated to 1500. Kaneko (p 764) Politician, dated to 1155. (Name Construction in Mediaeval Japan, Solveig Throndardottir, p. 376) dated to 1147 in the Heian Dynasty.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Calafia, Barony of

9. Bronwyn McKay Kellough (New Device)

Per bend vert and sable, three roses in bend argent

Name:

Name registered by Laurel August '86

DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

10. Caintigern of Ainsley (Name Appeal, New Device)

Vert, semy of bells Or, a cat sejant gardant argent spotted of various tinctures

Name:

Name returned by Laurel, September 1997, for inconsistency of location (Celtic given name, English surname). In a recent decision, Laurel has ruled that in favor of this name construction. We are appealing using the LoAR of 10/95 p. 14 (see Rígnach of Argyll), by virtue of the lingua anglica. Caintigern is found in O'Corrain & Maguire Gaelic Personal Names, p. 43, dated to at least 626. Ainsley is from Black Surnames of Scotland, p. 12, dated to 1689 in this spelling, with the earliest spelling dated to 1208. Black appears to cite the original name as a town in Nottinghamshire, England.

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

11. Eridana Ambra Dragotta (Device Resub, New Badge)

Device: Gules, a saltire parted and fretted argent between four compass stars pierced Or

Badge: [Fieldless] A compass star pierced Or

Name:

Name registered by Laurel September, '93

Device:

The armory of Bryceson Gules a saltire between four mullets of eight points pierced Or, Papworth p. 1076 conflicts with the submitted arms. We do not consider this to be protected armory. In addition there is SCA armory belonging to William Auberi Gules, on a saltire argent between four compass stars Or, five compass stars palewise vert (November '88). We hold that the submitted arms are clear of conflict, with a change of number of saltires, the subtraction of tertiaries on the saltire, and the subtraction of the piercing from the compass stars. Submitter releases old device upon passage of new.

Badge:

Upon discovering multiple conflicts, the submission is withdrawn by submitter, who is present.

DEVICE PASSED AND SENT TO LAUREL

12. Jeanne-Marie la Verriére (Device Resub)

Azure, a tricorporate sea lion argent ermined azure

Name:

Name in submission to Laurel (??? File is missing, exact information unknown).

Device:

There is a close call with SCA armory registered to James du Mer Azure, two demi-lions rampant addorsed and conjoined into a single fish's tail curled to sinister argent, but we believe is clear by X. 2 (complete change of primary charge).

DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

13. Ragnall Ban (New Name and Device)

Azure, a flame within an annulet, and a bordure dovetailed argent

Name:

Submitted as Ragnall Ban na Rath-Sithe. Submitter approved the change to Ragnall Ban. Ragnall (O'Corr'ain & Maguire, p. 154) under the heading "Ragnall", dated to 980, taken from the Vikings. Ban (Black, p. 42) under the heading Bain, dated to 1324.

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

14. William the Woodwright (New Name and Device)

Or, a fir tree sable surmounted by a carpenter's square, point to base, gules, a bordure sable

Name:

William (Withycombe, p. 293 - 294) under William. Dated too the 11th century. "Woodwright" is a redundant word, as "wright" itself means "one who works in wood." We were unable to find any examples of other [media]wright's. All other wrights seem to create something, e.g. boatwright or cartwright.

NAME RETURNED FOR CLARIFICATION
DEVICE PENDED

St. Isidore, College of (Calafia)

15. Baybars ibn-Abdallah al-Qasimi (New Name and Device)

Gules, on a fess Or, a Saracenic pen box gules and in base trousers of nobility Or

Name:

Baybars is found in Webster's Biographical Dictionary, p. 117 dated to 1233 AD. Qasim is found in the Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer, p. 1539, as a province of Nejd, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qasimi would describe a person from Qasim. Abdallah is documented in Da'ud ibn Aud Arabic Names and Naming Practices, KWHS Ansteorra, AS 28, p. 27.

Device:

The two charges are found in Da'ud ibn Aud Muslim Heraldry: An Introduction, form KWHS AS 23, p. 41-43.

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

16. Gaston du Bois (New Name and Device)

Per bend sable and purpure, a tree and a fleur-de-lys argent

Name:

Gaston is found in Withycombe Oxford Dictionary of Christian Names, p. 126. Bois is French for 'of the woods'. Evidence for it is found in Dauzat Noms et Prénoms, p. 49, under Bois, but with the spelling Dubois. Reaney & Wilson Dictionary of English Surnames, p. 143, list it in the header for Dubois as an alternate spelling, but do not date the spelling's entry.

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Tanwayour, Canton of (Calafia)

17. Tanwayour, Canton of (Name and Device Resub)

Sable, an open scroll, doweled argent within a laurel wreath and in chief a scimitar fesswise Or

Name:

name was pended for lack of petition of support. Petition has been signed and delivered.

Device:

We do not feel that this is a slot machine device as the scimitar in chief is a secondary charge, distinct from the primary charge group of scroll and laurel wreath.

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Darach, Shire of

18. Emrys FitzRainold de Venoix (New Device)

Per fess rayonny Argent ermined Azure and gules a vanneau Or (a winnowing fan)

Name:

Name registered by laurel 6/97

Device:

Crescent cites The Barony of Lyondemere's Barry wavy vert and argent a lyon's paw escallop Or. He holds this to be clear with one CD for the field and one CD for the difference between a winnowing fan and a scallop. Despite the similarity between the outline of the two charges, the overall shape of the winnowing fan appears sufficiently different from an essentially two-dimensional scallop, an adequately accurately drawn version of either should show sufficient distinction.

SUBMISSION WITHDRAWN BY SUBMITTER

Gyldenholt, Barony of

19. Everard de Selborne (Badge Resub)

[Fieldless] An astrolabe argent

Name:

Name registered by Laurel November '89

BADGE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Fenwood Knoll, College of (Gyldenholt)

20. Caitlin of Whitby (New Name)

Name:

Caitlin var. of Caitilin, Woulfe, P208. Whitby Columbia-Lippencott, pg. 2085, Whitby: dated to 657. Location of an Abby of St. Hilda, founded 657.

NAME APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

21. Elisabétta della Miràndola (New Name and Device)

Per chevron, purpure and vert, two dragons sajant, erect respectant, and in chief a compass star argent

Name:

Elizabetta (De Felice - Nomi, p. 141-142) [De Felice shows an accent over the second e.] Under Elisabetta. della is a locative. Mirandola (De Felice - Cognomi, p. 170) [De Felice shows a grav over the first a.] Under Mirandola, refers to it as a toponimic. (CLD, p. 1212) The town contains "old palace of dukes of" the same.

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Naevehjem, Barony of

22. Naevehjem, Barony of (Badge Resub)

Gules, a gurges argent

Name:

"Autocrat of the Day"

Device:

Conflicts with Carlotta Belfiore di Firenze's Argent, a gurges gules, overall a triskelion arrondi sable (SCA) and Chellery's Argent, a whirlpool gules. (Papworth, p. 1122)

RETURNED FOR SCA CONFLICT

23. Leagsaidh ninghean Sheumais (New Name)

Name:

Original submission as Leacsaidh inghean Sheumais. Submitter's documentation shows spelling as Leagsaidh (Peadar Morgan, header Leagsaidh). Since given and bynames are both shown to be Scottish in the submitter's documentation, the middle name has been changed to Scottish Gaelic spelling of ninghean. Sheumais is in Black, p. 719.

NAME APPROVED AS CHANGED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Southron Gaard, Barony of

24. Sigurd Hardrada (Name Resub)

Name:

Original Submission was Sigurd Hardtrader, returned by Laurel May 1995 for lack of documentation for the construction of the surname. The new submission combines period spellings from the OED. Hardrada is documented in The Viking, ed. By Bertil Almgren, page 85.

ACTION NOT NOTED

Starkhafn, Barony of

25. Caitriona Fadchosach (New Name and Device)

Quarterly purpure and sable, in bend two mountains couped argent

Name:

Catriona is an undated diminutive form of Katherine as found under the later in Withycombe, 1997, pp. 186-7. Fadchosach can be plausibly constructed as follows: fada meaning 'long' (p. 32) and the aspirated form of cos meaning 'leg' (p. 31) from Folóir, English-Irish/Irish-English Dictionary, with the -ach possibly an appropriate modifier making it 'legged'. We lack the resources to confirm this form.

Device:

No conflict found.

NAME AND DEVICE APPROVED AND SENT TO LAUREL

Postmeeting

The meeting was called to a close at 5:00 p.m. Minutes assembled by my own hand.
Madawc Seumus Caradawg
Dolphin Herald

Bibliography

Black, G. F. (1946). The Surnames of Scotland: Their Origin, Meaning and History. New York Public Library, New York. 1989 reprint edition.

Duzat, A. (1987). Dictionnaire Étymologique des Nomes de Famille et des Prénoms de France. Larousse, Paris. Reviewed and augmented by Marie-Thérèse Morlet.

MacLysaght, E. (1985). The Surnames of Ireland. Irish Academic Press, Dublin, sixth edition.

Ó Corráin, D and F. Maguire. (1981). Gaelic Personal Names. The Academy Press, Dublin.

Oxford University, editor (1971) The Compact Edition of the Oxford English Dictionary. Oxford University Press, Oxford.

Reaney, P. H. (1995). A Dictionary of British Surnames. Oxford University Press, Oxford, third (R. M. Wilson) edition.

Seltzer, L. E., editor (1952) The Columbia Lippencott Gazetteer of the World. Columbia University Press, Morningside Heights, New York.

Unbeguan, B. O. (1951). Russian Surnames. Oxford University Press, Oxford.

Withycombe, E. G. (1997). The Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names. Oxford University Press, Oxford, third edition. Reprinted 1982.

Woulfe, P. (1967). Sloinnte Gaedeal ir Gall: Irish Names and Surnames. Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, Maryland.

<<Da'ud ibn-Auda, "Arabic Names and Naming Practices" Ansteorran Known World Heraldic Symposium Proceedings,

Tumanova, Tatiana Nikolaevna, (1989). The Compleat Russian Name Book. SCA Publication

I have no bibliographical data for these references:
Peadar Morgan
Foloir-English-Irish dictionary
Nombres Propios Espa'noles, by Arana de Love
Da'ud ibn Auda Arabic Names and Naming Practices, KWHS Ansteorra, AS 28
Da'ud ibn Auda, Muslim Heraldry: An Introduction, from KWHS
Webster' s Biographical Dictionary

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